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I'd rather just go a level up... You don't want users to tamper with your ads? Ok, we'll block your entire site. No tampering.

acdjuiamadfn 9y ago
I like your style- maybe hard initially but if we could just stop using pages with intrusive ads, firms may finally listen and stop using those ads
- bigbugbag 9y ago
  > I like your style- maybe hard initially but if we could just stop using pages with intrusive ads, Why stop at intrusive ads ? Just block everything that features commercial ads. Though the real issue is not ads per se but the tracking that tags along.
  - Gracana 9y ago
    That would be neat as an experiment. Like, see how far you can go and what you can get to with a "total blocker."
- alephu5 9y ago
  If it turns out that this type of DMCA use is legally valid, adblockers could be modified to reject pages that embed URLs that have filed such requests. So if a particular site uses admiral to protect its ads, it loses traffic.
macawfish 9y ago
I've done this with FB.
thecrazyone 9y ago
users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. This ending up not serving your purpose nor theirs. For instance, let me go out on a limb and point out how some distros of linux insist on shipping without any non-free software. So, a user ends up having to go through hoops to just get an audio of video file playing. I think the analogy Im going for is, you don't want to play by our rules (our license, etc), we'll not use your software (or correspondingly block your site). I'm trying to point out what I think is likely consequence of such an action /impassionate comment
- kelnos 9y ago
  > users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. I don't think that's universally true. For me, if a site is broken because blocking ads also makes the content inaccessible, I just close the browser tab and move on with my day. (For a while the LA Times was blocking content in this way, so I just refused to visit their site. I guess it worked; they don't do this anymore.) I don't claim to be the common case, but frankly I don't know what the common case is, and I suspect you don't either, so it could go either way.
- Gracana 9y ago
  You're definitely right. Our ability to ignore our ideals when we're slightly inconvenienced is why content paired with invasive ads is so effective in the first place.
- deleted 9y ago
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- yrro 9y ago
  What common audio/video codecs/formats require non-free software to play?
  - btym 9y ago
    DVD, MPEG-2, Flash, MP3 (at least, until all of its patents expire by the end of the year).
    - yrro 9y ago
      What non-free code is required to play back DVDs or MP3s? Flash I will give you, though it has been an irrelevance to me since YouTube went HTML5.
      - darpa_escapee 9y ago
        I believe he's talking about this[1]: > Many GNU/Linux distributions do not contain libdvdcss (for example, Debian, Fedora, SUSE Linux, and Ubuntu) due to fears of running afoul of DMCA-style laws, but they often provide the tools to let the user install it themselves. For example, it used to be available in Ubuntu through Medibuntu, which is no longer available. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss#Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss#Distribution

acdjuiamadfn 9y ago

I like your style- maybe hard initially but if we could just stop using pages with intrusive ads, firms may finally listen and stop using those ads

bigbugbag 9y ago
> I like your style- maybe hard initially but if we could just stop using pages with intrusive ads, Why stop at intrusive ads ? Just block everything that features commercial ads. Though the real issue is not ads per se but the tracking that tags along.
- Gracana 9y ago
  That would be neat as an experiment. Like, see how far you can go and what you can get to with a "total blocker."
alephu5 9y ago
If it turns out that this type of DMCA use is legally valid, adblockers could be modified to reject pages that embed URLs that have filed such requests. So if a particular site uses admiral to protect its ads, it loses traffic.

macawfish 9y ago

I've done this with FB.

thecrazyone 9y ago

users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. This ending up not serving your purpose nor theirs. For instance, let me go out on a limb and point out how some distros of linux insist on shipping without any non-free software. So, a user ends up having to go through hoops to just get an audio of video file playing. I think the analogy Im going for is, you don't want to play by our rules (our license, etc), we'll not use your software (or correspondingly block your site). I'm trying to point out what I think is likely consequence of such an action /impassionate comment

kelnos 9y ago
> users of your list will not get this. And will stop using your list. I don't think that's universally true. For me, if a site is broken because blocking ads also makes the content inaccessible, I just close the browser tab and move on with my day. (For a while the LA Times was blocking content in this way, so I just refused to visit their site. I guess it worked; they don't do this anymore.) I don't claim to be the common case, but frankly I don't know what the common case is, and I suspect you don't either, so it could go either way.
Gracana 9y ago
You're definitely right. Our ability to ignore our ideals when we're slightly inconvenienced is why content paired with invasive ads is so effective in the first place.
deleted 9y ago
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yrro 9y ago
What common audio/video codecs/formats require non-free software to play?
- btym 9y ago
  DVD, MPEG-2, Flash, MP3 (at least, until all of its patents expire by the end of the year).
  - yrro 9y ago
    What non-free code is required to play back DVDs or MP3s? Flash I will give you, though it has been an irrelevance to me since YouTube went HTML5.
    - darpa_escapee 9y ago
      I believe he's talking about this[1]: > Many GNU/Linux distributions do not contain libdvdcss (for example, Debian, Fedora, SUSE Linux, and Ubuntu) due to fears of running afoul of DMCA-style laws, but they often provide the tools to let the user install it themselves. For example, it used to be available in Ubuntu through Medibuntu, which is no longer available. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss#Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libdvdcss#Distribution