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Kim should have chosen a different country. One that isn't so keen on letting the US raid their citizens.

djsumdog 9y ago
I don't think such a country exists. The influence of American's empire, and its entertainment industry, is pretty vast.
- walterstucco 9y ago
  Kim was already persona non Grata in different countries, accused of copyright infringement AND other serious crimes He should have stayed in Honk Kong Btw nobody could make you take down a link from a list if you host it in EU. Not even DOJ It's perfectly legal and it's a protected right
- kuschku 9y ago
  And this is why maybe Trump can have one good effect: By causing other countries to distance itself from the US.
  - allemagne 9y ago
    The unfortunate truth is that there are mostly only much more authoritarian countries to fill any leadership void left by the US. As flawed as it is, and as flawed as Trump is, European countries can only step up so much to keep liberal democratic societies as the global ideal.
    - kuschku 9y ago
      Maybe it could also help Europe to unify better. I'm certainly hopeful.
      - allemagne 9y ago
        My worry is that the current regimes of Russia and China are on the political upswing faster than the European experiment and struggling or young democracies in the developing world can stand the test of time. Enthusiastic participation by America in upholding the idea of liberal democracy (even when it's imperfectly executed) can tip the scales. The way that happens is by the head of the government reversing course as smoothly as possible from admiring and praising autocratic regimes to giving hope and comfort to democratic allies. Whether it's President Trump, Pence, or fucking Mark Zuckerberg doesn't make too much of a difference in that regard.
- pantalaimon 9y ago
  Russia and China come to mind.
  - rnhmjoj 9y ago
    Not exactly safe heavens for internet hosting.
    - Markoff 9y ago
      safe enough for above adblocker lists Sweden comes to mind too hosting WikiLeaks, so i am pretty sure some irrelevant ad blockers are certainly not big deal
djsumdog 9y ago
I don't think such a country exists. The influence of American's empire, and its entertainment industry, is pretty vast.

I don't think such a country exists. The influence of American's empire, and its entertainment industry, is pretty vast.

walterstucco 9y ago
Kim was already persona non Grata in different countries, accused of copyright infringement AND other serious crimes He should have stayed in Honk Kong Btw nobody could make you take down a link from a list if you host it in EU. Not even DOJ It's perfectly legal and it's a protected right
kuschku 9y ago
And this is why maybe Trump can have one good effect: By causing other countries to distance itself from the US.
- allemagne 9y ago
  The unfortunate truth is that there are mostly only much more authoritarian countries to fill any leadership void left by the US. As flawed as it is, and as flawed as Trump is, European countries can only step up so much to keep liberal democratic societies as the global ideal.
  - kuschku 9y ago
    Maybe it could also help Europe to unify better. I'm certainly hopeful.
    - allemagne 9y ago
      My worry is that the current regimes of Russia and China are on the political upswing faster than the European experiment and struggling or young democracies in the developing world can stand the test of time. Enthusiastic participation by America in upholding the idea of liberal democracy (even when it's imperfectly executed) can tip the scales. The way that happens is by the head of the government reversing course as smoothly as possible from admiring and praising autocratic regimes to giving hope and comfort to democratic allies. Whether it's President Trump, Pence, or fucking Mark Zuckerberg doesn't make too much of a difference in that regard.
pantalaimon 9y ago
Russia and China come to mind.
- rnhmjoj 9y ago
  Not exactly safe heavens for internet hosting.
  - Markoff 9y ago
    safe enough for above adblocker lists Sweden comes to mind too hosting WikiLeaks, so i am pretty sure some irrelevant ad blockers are certainly not big deal

djsumdog 9y ago

I don't think such a country exists. The influence of American's empire, and its entertainment industry, is pretty vast.