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I can certainly understand your opinion and I appreciate you having taken the time to respond to my post. I feel that perhaps we are coming at this from differe
by wonderwonder 9y ago
I can certainly understand your opinion and I appreciate you having taken the time to respond to my post. I feel that perhaps we are coming at this from different positions and life experiences thus the discrepancy on how we are interpreting the memo. I can absolutely understand how you view the memo and why it would cause you concern.
I took from the memo that he disagrees with the way Google implements racial and gender quotas as opposed to hiring people based solely on a persons technical skills. I feel that he is seeking to explain the gap in the number of female engineers using what he perceives as a biological basis. If this is biological difference is true or not, I have no idea.
I don't see where he states anything along the lines of that men are all better engineers just that there are more male engineers and possible reasons for this. He appears to feel that artificially inflating the ratio via deliberate selection is not the way to go. There is absolutely a gender imbalance in computer science but it starts before the hiring process, less than 15% of CS graduates are women. Why this is fact I don't know but it is.
My overall takeaway was not that he was advocating for discrimination rather it was quite the opposite that everyone should be judged on their own merits based on individual abilities, not on the perceived abilities of gender or the need to meet false quotas that in turn discriminate against others. Good policy does not pull people down to the lowest level, it should lift all to the highest levels.
I do understand your concern regarding sexism though and absolutely agree it should be stamped out at every level. People should be judged on who they are, not what they are.
- cmiles74 9y agoFair enough, I think I understand where you are coming from; people should still be judged on their merit, rather than lowering standards in order to meet an artificial goal like a certain percentage of women software engineers. I don't think anyone is arguing for lower standards and that this idea, in itself, is sexist. It's not that standards need to be lowered in order to get a larger amount of women into the field. It's that the sexism in the field, which is pretty well documented, needs to be eliminated. I think that is the goal that Google is working towards and I think it's a valuable goal. For sure, it will not be achieved overnight. If there aren't enough women software engineers, well, they'll have to wait for them to appear. The demonstrated need for these software engineers may encourage women to enter a field they might have deliberately chosen to avoid. The tone of this memo, to me, is poor; my first thoughts were condescending and smug as well as unabashedly sexist. In my opinion this poor tone could be one of the reasons people are so upset, or angry, at the author. This effect is directly working against Google's goal of trying to hire a more diverse group of software engineers and maybe that's why the memo's author was let go.