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Wow, I'd never imagine to read this piece in NY Times.

by dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago

otterley 9y ago
Why is that? David Brooks has been a conservative editorial commentator for a long time there.
- ebola1717 9y ago
  Yeah, like, there's a climate change denier in the NYT op-ed section. NYT isn't DemocracyNow - it's editorial team has range.
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  Well, because Damore touched an extremely delicate subject, that is the relation between biology (sex/race) and behavior, and the progressive view is that the latter is influenced mostly by cultural factors, with the former playing only a marginal role. The NYT team, as a whole, is likely to hold and profess the progressive view, so defending the opposite view is something I wouldn't expect to be published, even as an opinion piece.
guelo 9y ago
Maybe you have unfounded biases against the NYT based on the propaganda outlets you get your information from.
- cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
  I agree with parent based on my own experience, and I'm sure parent bases his/her comment based on experience too. I have been a NYTimes reader for a while and still read some of their less political articles, but when it comes to political pieces I stay away from them because I get nothing new, most of their articles are obviously left biased (For the record, I am NOT right wing. I just appreciate unbiased journalism and NYT has been failing me) If you think NYT being left is based on some untrue propaganda by right tilting media websites, then you're the one who's mistaken, because as I said, I'm not right wing and I don't even read any right wing media.
  - guelo 9y ago
    Well I do read NYT's political pieces and haven't ever noticed any biases against conservatives.
    - cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
      Interesting. Do you think NYT is a neutral publication? Honest question.
      - guelo 9y ago
        Yes I believe so. They employ hundreds of the top journalists in the country who sincerely want to do a good job. They are like the Google of the journalism world in that the very best journalists want to work there. I'm sure some bias creeps in but for the most part they will try harder than most other organizations to play it straight.
- dionian 9y ago
  Nah, it's just a token opinion column, they do it all the time. The rest of the paper is still unabashedly pro-Left
- dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
  In general, the covering of the diversity memo issue by NYT is way better than by other popular media outlets. Nevertheless, they didn't use neutral language. One of the first articles started with: When James Damore, a Google engineer, was fired this week for writing a 10-page manifesto spelling out his grievances with the company’s progressive values and positing that biological differences explained the tech industry’s gender gap, it might have seemed like the end of a bizarre, short-lived morality tale. The current article uses a completely different language, it really surprised me.

Wow, I'd never imagine to read this piece in NY Times.

otterley 9y ago

Why is that? David Brooks has been a conservative editorial commentator for a long time there.

ebola1717 9y ago
Yeah, like, there's a climate change denier in the NYT op-ed section. NYT isn't DemocracyNow - it's editorial team has range.
dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
Well, because Damore touched an extremely delicate subject, that is the relation between biology (sex/race) and behavior, and the progressive view is that the latter is influenced mostly by cultural factors, with the former playing only a marginal role. The NYT team, as a whole, is likely to hold and profess the progressive view, so defending the opposite view is something I wouldn't expect to be published, even as an opinion piece.

guelo 9y ago

Maybe you have unfounded biases against the NYT based on the propaganda outlets you get your information from.

cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
I agree with parent based on my own experience, and I'm sure parent bases his/her comment based on experience too. I have been a NYTimes reader for a while and still read some of their less political articles, but when it comes to political pieces I stay away from them because I get nothing new, most of their articles are obviously left biased (For the record, I am NOT right wing. I just appreciate unbiased journalism and NYT has been failing me) If you think NYT being left is based on some untrue propaganda by right tilting media websites, then you're the one who's mistaken, because as I said, I'm not right wing and I don't even read any right wing media.
- guelo 9y ago
  Well I do read NYT's political pieces and haven't ever noticed any biases against conservatives.
  - cocktailpeanuts 9y ago
    Interesting. Do you think NYT is a neutral publication? Honest question.
    - guelo 9y ago
      Yes I believe so. They employ hundreds of the top journalists in the country who sincerely want to do a good job. They are like the Google of the journalism world in that the very best journalists want to work there. I'm sure some bias creeps in but for the most part they will try harder than most other organizations to play it straight.
dionian 9y ago
Nah, it's just a token opinion column, they do it all the time. The rest of the paper is still unabashedly pro-Left
dvfjsdhgfv 9y ago
In general, the covering of the diversity memo issue by NYT is way better than by other popular media outlets. Nevertheless, they didn't use neutral language. One of the first articles started with: When James Damore, a Google engineer, was fired this week for writing a 10-page manifesto spelling out his grievances with the company’s progressive values and positing that biological differences explained the tech industry’s gender gap, it might have seemed like the end of a bizarre, short-lived morality tale. The current article uses a completely different language, it really surprised me.