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Wonder if we could create a git in the blockchain... where DMCA just can't exist/happen since there's no central authority to ask to take stuff down...
by gremlinsinc 9y ago
Wonder if we could create a git in the blockchain... where DMCA just can't exist/happen since there's no central authority to ask to take stuff down...
- slaymaker1907 9y agoI think IPFS would be a better bet than block chain for this.
- willglynn 9y agoYou might be interested to note the IPFS DMCA policy: https://discuss.ipfs.io/tos#8 https://discuss.ipfs.io/tos#8
- rnhmjoj 9y agoThis is irrelevant because ipfs.io may act as a proxy but content is stored somewhere on the network and accessible via IPFS.
- lqdc13 9y agoStill need some proxy for it to be accessible from the internet right?
- rnhmjoj 9y agoNo, you don't need one: you are supposed to run your own IPFS node. There are even browsers that supports IPFS out-of-the-box.
- detaro 9y agoIf by "internet" you mean your browser/over HTTP, then yes. But the IPFS client provides exactly that, on your local machine, without any restrictions. If you offer it to the public, you can choose your own policy on copyrighted etc. content.
- lqdc13 9y agoI mean it's unusable to the general public since IPFS network is not accessible via the browser without a proxy. In other words, one would first have to integrate an IPFS client into all major browsers.
- anderber 9y agoPerhaps Dat would be better than IPFS? https://datproject.org https://datproject.org
- rnhmjoj 9y agoIt's possible and a proof of concept does exist but it's no more than that currently: http://blog.printf.net/articles/2015/05/29/announcing-gittorrent-a-decentralized-github/ http://blog.printf.net/articles/2015/05/29/announcing-gittor...
- richardknop 9y agoMake a quick ICO. You will raise 200 million in 1 hour. /sarcasm This is half decent idea though actually.
- gremlinsinc 9y agodamn if not for the /sarcasm tag I might've actually done it...actually might still could use a couple $mill.
- skymt 9y agoCopyright law doesn't care what technology you use to store and distribute material. If you have a blockchain that contains unauthorized copyrighted material, any host participating in that network would be legally subject to DMCA requests by the copyright holder. What would the defense look like in court, anyway? "We can't stop illegally distributing the plaintiff's content because that would break the chain?" In effect it would just be a spectacularly inefficient distributed storage system.
- benchaney 9y agoYou are overlooking the fact that there is no actual DMCA violation in this case. The problem is that companies being bullied with frivolous DMCA threats will comply because it is easier than fighting it. Using a blockchain removes this as an option (and also makes the bullying pointless in the first place).
- skymt 9y agoAnd when your DMCA-proof storage system receives a valid DMCA notice for an actual case of infringement, what's the plan?
- gremlinsinc 9y agothey will need contact each node..i.e. device that has the blockchain and file a dmca directly w/ each one... maybe? lol
- daenney 9y agoHow would that work though? DMCA only applies to the US, so with a global network how would the DMCA be effective? Even if every node in the network in the US removes it, all you might achieve is break the chain. The content will still be there.
- skymt 9y agoThe same is true of any other distributed storage system. Adding a blockchain doesn't change the situation in any way, other than making complying with the law far less convenient. Though I should add that while the DMCA is indeed a US law, and notification and enforcement mechanisms vary by jurisdiction, other countries also have copyright law. It's illegal to publish copyrighted material without permission in any country with a copyright system. That's what copyright is.