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Guilt by association is a rather weak argument. If the best evidence you can find for your proposition is that he once spoke with someone, you should drop the

Guilt by association is a rather weak argument. If the best evidence you can find for your proposition is that he once spoke with someone, you should drop the idea. > he really avoided mainstream sources fearing misrepresentation Not "fearing". Having actually experienced misrepresentation. Also, not "mainstream", far-left, like The Guardian.

eesmith 9y ago
"Far-left"? What Overton window are you looking through? The Guardian is center-left.
- leereeves 9y ago
  Today in The Guardian: Salma Hayek is right: compared with women, men are lazy and entitled
  - eesmith 9y ago
    And your point is ... that every op ed piece in a newspaper (in this case, 'Julie Bindel is a freelance journalist and political activist, and a founder of Justice for Women') reflects the position of the newspaper as a whole? Edit: FWIW, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian says it's "centre-left". By comparison, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_Unit... describes Morning Star as "Left-wing, socialist".
    - leereeves 9y ago
      "Freelance" in the sense that she's written 383 articles for The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/profile/juliebindel https://www.theguardian.com/profile/juliebindel
      - danso 9y ago
        Er, why do you put "freelance" in quotes? Being a freelance vs. staff member is not about number of articles you've written, but how and how much you are paid, the benefits you receive, who you report to in the editorial bureaucracy, and your day-to-day obligations to the company. She seems to write a lot of op-ed type pieces, which are meant to "oppose" the editorial page (in a physical sense, but sometimes in voice/topic). The fact that the freelance editor is OK with working with her, over and over, is not nothing. Just as Bret Stephens being hired as a NYT columnist is not nothing about the NYT's priorities, even as he has no contact or relationship with NYT's news reporters.
        leereeves 9y ago
        My point was that the word freelance suggests someone is independent of the organization, while writing 383 articles for The Guardian suggests otherwise. Clearly she likes The Guardian and they like her opinion very much. More significantly, their opinion writers range from left to extreme left.
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      - eesmith 9y ago
        Over 17 years, so that's two per month. Again, what is your point? Do you think opinion pieces must be in lock-step with the newspaper as a whole? All you've shown is that The Guardian publishes pieces from people with views that typically lie on the left (though are not reflective of everyone on the left). Which is, you know, the "left" in "center left".
        leereeves 9y ago
        The Guardian publishes the opinion of people on the left and on the far left. Julie Bindel is about as far-left as possible. Every article they publish about someone from the right is an attack. How is that centrist?

eesmith 9y ago

"Far-left"? What Overton window are you looking through? The Guardian is center-left.

leereeves 9y ago
Today in The Guardian: Salma Hayek is right: compared with women, men are lazy and entitled
- eesmith 9y ago
  And your point is ... that every op ed piece in a newspaper (in this case, 'Julie Bindel is a freelance journalist and political activist, and a founder of Justice for Women') reflects the position of the newspaper as a whole? Edit: FWIW, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Guardian says it's "centre-left". By comparison, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_United_Kingdom https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_newspapers_in_the_Unit... describes Morning Star as "Left-wing, socialist".
  - leereeves 9y ago
    "Freelance" in the sense that she's written 383 articles for The Guardian. https://www.theguardian.com/profile/juliebindel https://www.theguardian.com/profile/juliebindel
    - danso 9y ago
      Er, why do you put "freelance" in quotes? Being a freelance vs. staff member is not about number of articles you've written, but how and how much you are paid, the benefits you receive, who you report to in the editorial bureaucracy, and your day-to-day obligations to the company. She seems to write a lot of op-ed type pieces, which are meant to "oppose" the editorial page (in a physical sense, but sometimes in voice/topic). The fact that the freelance editor is OK with working with her, over and over, is not nothing. Just as Bret Stephens being hired as a NYT columnist is not nothing about the NYT's priorities, even as he has no contact or relationship with NYT's news reporters.
      - leereeves 9y ago
        My point was that the word freelance suggests someone is independent of the organization, while writing 383 articles for The Guardian suggests otherwise. Clearly she likes The Guardian and they like her opinion very much. More significantly, their opinion writers range from left to extreme left.
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    - eesmith 9y ago
      Over 17 years, so that's two per month. Again, what is your point? Do you think opinion pieces must be in lock-step with the newspaper as a whole? All you've shown is that The Guardian publishes pieces from people with views that typically lie on the left (though are not reflective of everyone on the left). Which is, you know, the "left" in "center left".
      - leereeves 9y ago
        The Guardian publishes the opinion of people on the left and on the far left. Julie Bindel is about as far-left as possible. Every article they publish about someone from the right is an attack. How is that centrist?