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I always enjoy reading your thoughtful comments on this topic. What do you think about the indirect rebuttal to some of your points made here — http://slatesta

I always enjoy reading your thoughtful comments on this topic. What do you think about the indirect rebuttal to some of your points made here — http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/07/contra-grant-on-exaggerated-differences/ http://slatestarcodex.com/2017/08/07/contra-grant-on-exagger... — in sections II and IV? It seems to respond to two arguments you've made: that (a) other countries having better representation of women in STEM shows that the issue is culturally determined; and that (b) the relative smallness of the gender gap in fields like law, math, and medicine contradicts the idea that women caring more about people than things would necessarily show up in aggregate career choices.

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taysic 9y ago
I can tell you as a woman, yes woman care about people but we don't really care that much. We care about money too. ;) We can get a lot of our people needs through family. A lot of the jobs woman choose are just due to money- especially being a nurse as I know quite a few. It's not really an easy job from what I hear from my friends but it pays really well with minimal training. As well as a programmer where I live! I didn't read the entire link because it was really long but I took a look and I can give you my thoughts as a woman in tech. "Might young women be avoiding computers because they’ve absorbed stereotypes telling them that they’re not smart enough, or that they’re “only for boys”? " The author goes on to point to studies that prove otherwise. I really question such studies because they tackle such a broad topic with a limited subset of people and I guess it also doesn't align with my experience. I would say stereotypes and having to overcome those stereotypes are a huge emotional drain. When I was in college, the president of Harvard Larry Summers came out saying math/science scores have now proved woman are not as capable in tech. To have a person of such authority say this was disheartening at least when I was just trying to keep as positive of an attitude as I could about my own capabilities getting my CS degree. If I had been any less up for a challenge, I would have switched to another major. Yes I think it's a big deal and it's been too little time to make any conclusions about female aptitude in this regard.
- brandonhsiao 9y ago
  To be clear, not stating the people thing as my own belief, just stating the premises of the argument. Grr, too late to edit now. (I read your entire comment, but don't have anything meaningful to add on.)

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taysic 9y ago

I can tell you as a woman, yes woman care about people but we don't really care that much. We care about money too. ;) We can get a lot of our people needs through family. A lot of the jobs woman choose are just due to money- especially being a nurse as I know quite a few. It's not really an easy job from what I hear from my friends but it pays really well with minimal training. As well as a programmer where I live! I didn't read the entire link because it was really long but I took a look and I can give you my thoughts as a woman in tech. "Might young women be avoiding computers because they’ve absorbed stereotypes telling them that they’re not smart enough, or that they’re “only for boys”? " The author goes on to point to studies that prove otherwise. I really question such studies because they tackle such a broad topic with a limited subset of people and I guess it also doesn't align with my experience. I would say stereotypes and having to overcome those stereotypes are a huge emotional drain. When I was in college, the president of Harvard Larry Summers came out saying math/science scores have now proved woman are not as capable in tech. To have a person of such authority say this was disheartening at least when I was just trying to keep as positive of an attitude as I could about my own capabilities getting my CS degree. If I had been any less up for a challenge, I would have switched to another major. Yes I think it's a big deal and it's been too little time to make any conclusions about female aptitude in this regard.

brandonhsiao 9y ago
To be clear, not stating the people thing as my own belief, just stating the premises of the argument. Grr, too late to edit now. (I read your entire comment, but don't have anything meaningful to add on.)