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i think programmers and a lot of other people get paid way too much. i used to wash dishes and the other guy who washed dishes, who worked right next to me, was
by bronz 9y ago
i think programmers and a lot of other people get paid way too much. i used to wash dishes and the other guy who washed dishes, who worked right next to me, was an immigrant. he worked 12 hours a day every single solitary day. without him, the restaurant would grind to a halt. so, like stephanie, he was a huge part of all the money that was made. and yet, he gets paid less than minimum wage. he works harder than anyone else i have ever known and yet he gets paid a pittance. he make their business possible and yet he is paid a pittance. let me tell you that seeing programmers make 50k a year for basically no work compared to my friend, its amazing to me. and when i see white collar workers complain that they only make 100k, it makes me angry. the vast, vast majority of white collar workers are not worth anything close to what they are paid. i know a guy who works four hours a week and is paid more than 80k. four hours of typing per week. the level of privilege is astounding among programmers. so please dont complain.
- vostok 9y agoI don't think you're actually arguing that programmers get paid too much. You are arguing that dishwashers get paid too little. Your argument is that dishwashers produce a lot of value and you're right about that. The restaurant is willing to pay probably as much as $50/hour for a dishwasher if not more. The problem is that people are willing to take the job at $15/hour so there's no incentive for the restaurant to pay more.
- bronz 9y agoperhaps youre right
- anotheryou 9y agoYou just said it yourself: the market dictates the price and it is not tied to effort or anything just. People mostly get paid just the right ammount according to the market, but from any other percepective the numbers are pretty aribtrary and by no means justifiable. At most one could say that some people don't work hard on their carrees and e.g. try to make a living from beeing an artist (or in oter words: don't optimize for money). But this is not true for the dishwasher either.
- 21 9y agoIt's just a supply/demand thing. One guy which I knew, a movie FX guy (Maya, After Effects, ...) moved to London and washed dishes for a few months before getting a gig in his field. And I've met quite a few more people in London doing very low paid jobs. They are paid so low because you can easily find someone willing to do it for even less. I'm not saying that this is fair, it's just how it is. Basic income, which is inevitable, will fix most of this, as in nobody will need to work just to make a living.