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Yes it is critically important what he said. He got fired, very publicly, from Google for what he said, or at least an interpretation of what he said. This prob
by kobeya 9y ago
Yes it is critically important what he said. He got fired, very publicly, from Google for what he said, or at least an interpretation of what he said. This probably killed his career in tech, if not generally, assuming he doesn't win a wrongful termination settlement. I think it matters a LOT if the reason he got fired was for a hysterical mob justice over a misinterpretation of something he didn't actually say. That is in fact the core issue over outrage -- that someone can get fired over making what is an objectively true mathematical argument. That has chilling effects.
- shadowmint 9y ago> He got fired, very publicly, from Google for what he said, or at least an interpretation of what he said. I don't care. I don't know the dude. Lifes tough, people get fired. /shrug. > That is in fact the core issue over outrage -- that someone can get fired over making what is an objectively true mathematical argument. Ah... so what you care about it freedom of speech and expression, nothing to do with diversity? Well, at least I can appreciate your concern on that front; I'm not really that fussed about that issue, because imo he violated their CoC during work hours; he got fired for it. Tough luck dude. If he'd been persecuted for doing that outside of work hours, I'd have an issue with it, but... fair enough. I can see why you care about exactly what he said in that case. I think it's important to draw the distinction on what you're getting upset by though; because a lot of people (like me) don't care at all he got fired; but we're upset by the content his memo. That's an entirely different issue.
- jamesrcole 9y ago> I don't care. I don't know the dude You literally don't care about people unless you personally know them? Or if you do care about them, what's the reason you don't care about this person, nor any the effects of this situation on other people you don't know?
- shadowmint 9y agoThings happen to people all the time, should I care about every single person who gets fired for doing something stupid at work? Do you care that Bob down the road got fired for swearing at his boss? I bet you don't. Why is this guy special?
- thinkfurther 9y ago> Do you care that Bob down the road got fired for swearing at his boss? I bet you don't. That's hardly a fitting analogy. And yes, I for one do care about people including strangers, at least in the sense that I don't like hearing of bad things befalling others. Until they signal good reasons for ceasing to care about them like you are doing, in those cases I restrict my empathy to recognize their lack of empathy.
- shadowmint 9y ago> That's hardly a fitting analogy. From my perspective, it's absolutely no different. ...but you know, reading your comment history, I see there's little point in arguing about it with you. Let's just settle for: we disagree. ...and, that's totally ok.
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoIF he was worried about his job, why did he circulate a memo with highly controversial views around the company? Hes a little entitled to think that people cared to not only hear his controversial view, but also read his memo about his controversial thoughts on this controversial subject within a private company. What outcome was he expecting from doing this? Blaming google? Seriously?
- thinkfurther 9y agoIf she was worried about being raped, why did she wear a mini skirt in the bad part of town? What outcome did she expect? Blame the rapist? Seriously?
- throwawaymanbot 9y agoTo conflate these 2 completely different things is very lousy of you, and pathetic. But It does let me see what sort of person you are, and were brought up to be. So id like to ask you to please justify how you linked a controversial Google memo that got a guy fired, with the trash lines you just wrote. Now is your chance to explain yourself. Or... you can leave it for all to see. Its your embarrassment!