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It's probably not the right time and place to ask, but have there been considerations for post-Bootstrap 4 yet? I could imagine CSS grid and CSS variables will

It's probably not the right time and place to ask, but have there been considerations for post-Bootstrap 4 yet? I could imagine CSS grid and CSS variables will reduce the need for sass/less in the future. So it might make sense to look into whether the CSS abstractions build into BS 4 will hold up well in the presence of CSS grid/vars, or have their design informed by/aligned with these upcoming features.

inopinatus 9y ago
I think getting bootstrap 4 to this stage will have been quite the task already, the maintainers may want to rest awhile on their laurels once it is released! If I was going to offer a contribution myself, it might be to work on removing the jQuery dependency.
- mdo 9y ago
  Yup, Johann is going to slowly tackle rewriting plugins in vanilla JS. That’s a big task, but we’ll do it in time.
  - merb 9y ago
    it would be cool to have them written in typescript.
mdo 9y ago
Probably gonna stick with some Sass stuff for awhile, tackling components and JS behaviors we haven’t done in the past. There’s some major stuff we’re missing even before CSS grid layout (which doesn’t have super great support today).
- technojunkie 9y ago
  To the contrary, CSS Grid Layout has excellent support. All modern browsers aside from Edge. For Edge, IE11, and IE10, you can use the original Grid spec since it's frozen in time and can replicate most of what Grid can do today, albeit it's more complicated and explicit. Considering Bootstrap does not support the same browsers that CSS Grid does not work in, this argument doesn't stand. http://caniuse.com/#search=grid http://caniuse.com/#search=grid If you look through the stats of every unsupported browser in the list above, almost all of them are %0.x. Adding them all up still gives you single digits. And with Flexbox as a fallback, you're covering virtually all modern browsers. I really hope you consider adding this last feature to Bootstrap 4 as I truly believe it will be worth the effort.

inopinatus 9y ago

I think getting bootstrap 4 to this stage will have been quite the task already, the maintainers may want to rest awhile on their laurels once it is released! If I was going to offer a contribution myself, it might be to work on removing the jQuery dependency.

mdo 9y ago
Yup, Johann is going to slowly tackle rewriting plugins in vanilla JS. That’s a big task, but we’ll do it in time.
- merb 9y ago
  it would be cool to have them written in typescript.

mdo 9y ago

Probably gonna stick with some Sass stuff for awhile, tackling components and JS behaviors we haven’t done in the past. There’s some major stuff we’re missing even before CSS grid layout (which doesn’t have super great support today).

technojunkie 9y ago
To the contrary, CSS Grid Layout has excellent support. All modern browsers aside from Edge. For Edge, IE11, and IE10, you can use the original Grid spec since it's frozen in time and can replicate most of what Grid can do today, albeit it's more complicated and explicit. Considering Bootstrap does not support the same browsers that CSS Grid does not work in, this argument doesn't stand. http://caniuse.com/#search=grid http://caniuse.com/#search=grid If you look through the stats of every unsupported browser in the list above, almost all of them are %0.x. Adding them all up still gives you single digits. And with Flexbox as a fallback, you're covering virtually all modern browsers. I really hope you consider adding this last feature to Bootstrap 4 as I truly believe it will be worth the effort.