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Check out ZeroTier It implements a virtual ethernet layer using cryptographic identities underneath. Here's the relevant section on the address computation fr

by jah6q 9y ago

Check out ZeroTier It implements a virtual ethernet layer using cryptographic identities underneath. Here's the relevant section on the address computation from the manual: https://www.zerotier.com/manual.shtml#2_1_2 https://www.zerotier.com/manual.shtml#2_1_2

raarts 9y ago
Zero tier is the most neglected network protocol I know. It deserves more attention.
gue5t 9y ago
This seems really complicated. Is ZeroTier closer to an cjdns- / i2p-style system, or is it closer to CurveCP/MinimaLT/QUIC? (QUIC being the odd one out of the trio as it grafts on some awful HTTP semantics, but that's Google for you.)
- zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
  > QUIC being the odd one out of the trio as it grafts on some awful HTTP semantics, but that's Google for you. What specifically do you mean by that, and are you sure that it still applies to the IETF version?
  - gue5t 9y ago
    There are a number of statements like "QUIC is functionally equivalent to TCP+TLS+HTTP/2" in the "QUIC wire specification" and other documents, and this agrees with what I remember seeing in the source in the Chromium repo when I last looked. I've not read about the IETF version; I'll look into it.
    - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
      I haven't been following QUIC very closely, but from what I understand, they have put in a proper abstraction between the TCP+TLS part and the HTTP part. While the mapping of how to use HTTP over QUIC is still part of the spec, as I understand it, there shouldn't be any major problems mapping other protocols onto it.
- jah6q 9y ago
  Yeah, I did link to a particularly dense and unapproachable section of the manual. ZT is designed to just be an end to end encrypted virtual LAN for anything you want to dump across it. There's also a library implementation which effectively gives every app its own cryptographically-derived address (if that's what you're into).
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by jah6q 9y ago

raarts 9y ago

Zero tier is the most neglected network protocol I know. It deserves more attention.

gue5t 9y ago

This seems really complicated. Is ZeroTier closer to an cjdns- / i2p-style system, or is it closer to CurveCP/MinimaLT/QUIC? (QUIC being the odd one out of the trio as it grafts on some awful HTTP semantics, but that's Google for you.)

zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
> QUIC being the odd one out of the trio as it grafts on some awful HTTP semantics, but that's Google for you. What specifically do you mean by that, and are you sure that it still applies to the IETF version?
- gue5t 9y ago
  There are a number of statements like "QUIC is functionally equivalent to TCP+TLS+HTTP/2" in the "QUIC wire specification" and other documents, and this agrees with what I remember seeing in the source in the Chromium repo when I last looked. I've not read about the IETF version; I'll look into it.
  - zAy0LfpBZLC8mAC 9y ago
    I haven't been following QUIC very closely, but from what I understand, they have put in a proper abstraction between the TCP+TLS part and the HTTP part. While the mapping of how to use HTTP over QUIC is still part of the spec, as I understand it, there shouldn't be any major problems mapping other protocols onto it.
jah6q 9y ago
Yeah, I did link to a particularly dense and unapproachable section of the manual. ZT is designed to just be an end to end encrypted virtual LAN for anything you want to dump across it. There's also a library implementation which effectively gives every app its own cryptographically-derived address (if that's what you're into).
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