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There is a larger question as to whether that California law violates the US Constitution or not. I think not, but we will probably see what the USSC has to say

There is a larger question as to whether that California law violates the US Constitution or not. I think not, but we will probably see what the USSC has to say about it. If he wanted less surfers traipsing across his property, seems like the easier solution would've been to drastically increase the parking fees. As I understand it, it's almost impossible to walk to the beach down that road so access to the parking would've been much easier to restrict under the costal access law. So this is almost certainly done as a provocation to see if he can change the law via the courts

DannyBee 9y ago
" but we will probably see what the USSC has to say about it." Actually, we will probably not. They almost certainly will not take the case. This is a matter of state constitutional law, and well settled law at that. The big problem for Khosla is: It's been that way since 1976, and the supreme court has not, in that time period, said there was anything wrong with the provision. This is part of the California constitution: "No individual, partnership, or corporation, claiming or possessing the frontage of tidal lands of a harbor, bay, inlet, estuary, or other navigable water in this State, shall be permitted to exclude the right of way to such water whenever it is required for any public purpose, nor to destroy or obstruct free navigation of such water; and the Legislature shall enact such laws as will give the most liberal construction to this provision so that access to the navigable water of this State shall always be attainable for the people thereof." - California Constitution, Article X, section 4 At worst, they will be forced to pay market rate. They will then argue over market rate. Khosla may be a billionaire, but bureaucracy generally doesn't care.
- toomuchtodo 9y ago
  I appreciate your contributions in these Khosla threads. Thank you! > Khosla may be a billionaire, but bureaucracy generally doesn't care. I genuinely enjoy that California can outlast Khosla, and that access to the beach will return eventually. The level of wealthy arrogance is too damn high.
- tzs 9y ago
  What ever happened with that ruling in, I think, 2013 that the Treaty of Hidalgo allowed him to close land access to the beach, and that the Treaty had priority over the California constitution? I remember reading that this was being appealed, but have not seen what happened to that.
cjensen 9y ago
You're kinda missing the point. We've had 50 years of very rich people challenging the law and losing. Many of them applied to the USSC. The USSC is not interested because this is basic mundane permit-condition stuff. The only time the USSC has slapped down the Coastal Commission is when the Commission went overboard and required a lateral easement along a property for the purpose of views. As for increasing the parking fees, the legal system is not stupid. You cannot hack around it.

DannyBee 9y ago

" but we will probably see what the USSC has to say about it." Actually, we will probably not. They almost certainly will not take the case. This is a matter of state constitutional law, and well settled law at that. The big problem for Khosla is: It's been that way since 1976, and the supreme court has not, in that time period, said there was anything wrong with the provision. This is part of the California constitution: "No individual, partnership, or corporation, claiming or possessing the frontage of tidal lands of a harbor, bay, inlet, estuary, or other navigable water in this State, shall be permitted to exclude the right of way to such water whenever it is required for any public purpose, nor to destroy or obstruct free navigation of such water; and the Legislature shall enact such laws as will give the most liberal construction to this provision so that access to the navigable water of this State shall always be attainable for the people thereof." - California Constitution, Article X, section 4 At worst, they will be forced to pay market rate. They will then argue over market rate. Khosla may be a billionaire, but bureaucracy generally doesn't care.

toomuchtodo 9y ago
I appreciate your contributions in these Khosla threads. Thank you! > Khosla may be a billionaire, but bureaucracy generally doesn't care. I genuinely enjoy that California can outlast Khosla, and that access to the beach will return eventually. The level of wealthy arrogance is too damn high.
tzs 9y ago
What ever happened with that ruling in, I think, 2013 that the Treaty of Hidalgo allowed him to close land access to the beach, and that the Treaty had priority over the California constitution? I remember reading that this was being appealed, but have not seen what happened to that.

cjensen 9y ago

You're kinda missing the point. We've had 50 years of very rich people challenging the law and losing. Many of them applied to the USSC. The USSC is not interested because this is basic mundane permit-condition stuff. The only time the USSC has slapped down the Coastal Commission is when the Commission went overboard and required a lateral easement along a property for the purpose of views. As for increasing the parking fees, the legal system is not stupid. You cannot hack around it.