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Tab groups is possible with the WebEx system, Vertical Tabs might work, but yeah Tile Tabs is probably out. I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Vimperator is

by Jaepa 9y ago

Tab groups is possible with the WebEx system, Vertical Tabs might work, but yeah Tile Tabs is probably out. I'm kind of in the same boat as you. Vimperator is how is how I use my browser. Vimperator is pretty amazing in terms of functionality, but is also a good illustration why the WebEx migration is needed. Vimperator can reload every tab every 10 seconds, create a temp buffer and open it in vim for textareas, control other extensions, modify headers or content of the HTML, control the chrome, and so on. From a developer or security standpoint having a plugin that can do this is insane. That being said, I don't know what I'm going to do when the legacy stuff is fully deprecated. The plugins I use have become so involved in my workflow that I can't really picture Foxfire without them.

andrepd 9y ago
Then disable it by default. Don't show non-WebEx addons in the mozilla website. If a user tries to enable it, put up a big red warning sign saying how dangerous it is and a checkbox saying "I understand". But in the end, let the users do what they want. This way 99% of the users will never use unsafe addons, the 99% who won't even miss them. But power user who understand and want to, let them ultimately have the freedom to do "stupid" things (what you consider as stupid).
- Animats 9y ago
  The underlying XUL machinery that XUL-type add-ons access is going away. It's never been there in mobile Firefox. That's why they have to go. Whether Firefox add-ons should be restricted to what Google Chrome supports is another issue.
  - yoasif_ 9y ago
    > Whether Firefox add-ons should be restricted to what Google Chrome supports is another issue. It's not, though. See: https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/support-ublock-origin/6746/451 https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/support-ublock-origin/6746/4...
- kuschku 9y ago
  This is not a security question, but a performance and safety question. Many of the major performance improvements in Chrome were possible because the extensions were decoupled from the browser itself. If Firefox ever wants to improve its performance, it can not keep running XUL extensions anymore.
yoasif_ 9y ago
Tile Tabs is available as a WebExtension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/
slrz 9y ago
> From a developer or security standpoint having a plugin that can do this is insane. Where do you see the security implications, i.e. what is the threat model here?

by Jaepa 9y ago

andrepd 9y ago

Then disable it by default. Don't show non-WebEx addons in the mozilla website. If a user tries to enable it, put up a big red warning sign saying how dangerous it is and a checkbox saying "I understand". But in the end, let the users do what they want. This way 99% of the users will never use unsafe addons, the 99% who won't even miss them. But power user who understand and want to, let them ultimately have the freedom to do "stupid" things (what you consider as stupid).

Animats 9y ago
The underlying XUL machinery that XUL-type add-ons access is going away. It's never been there in mobile Firefox. That's why they have to go. Whether Firefox add-ons should be restricted to what Google Chrome supports is another issue.
- yoasif_ 9y ago
  > Whether Firefox add-ons should be restricted to what Google Chrome supports is another issue. It's not, though. See: https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/support-ublock-origin/6746/451 https://discourse.mozilla.org/t/support-ublock-origin/6746/4...
kuschku 9y ago
This is not a security question, but a performance and safety question. Many of the major performance improvements in Chrome were possible because the extensions were decoupled from the browser itself. If Firefox ever wants to improve its performance, it can not keep running XUL extensions anymore.

yoasif_ 9y ago

Tile Tabs is available as a WebExtension: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tile-tabs-we/

slrz 9y ago

> From a developer or security standpoint having a plugin that can do this is insane. Where do you see the security implications, i.e. what is the threat model here?