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Sounds like what happened to the BeBox back in the day. They put their bet on the Hobbit chip initially (multiple hobbits iirc, hence the emphasis on multi-pro

by evgen 9y ago

Sounds like what happened to the BeBox back in the day. They put their bet on the Hobbit chip initially (multiple hobbits iirc, hence the emphasis on multi-process/multi-thread) and had to delay quite a while to revamp their architecture.

zeusk 9y ago
not sure where you're getting that from, x86 chips are swappable with little design considerations apart from socket, TDP and in very edge cases - IO. As for hololens, the current version is approaching EOL anyway.
- evgen 9y ago
  The Hobbit was _not_ an x86 chip, hence the delay its discontinuation introduced. I was not suggesting that an architecture change was necessary for Hololens, but are there a large range of low-power/mobile x86 SoCs out there to choose from? I know ARM has sucked up most of the oxygen in this particular room, but surely someone other than Intel is working on a similar line?
  - zeusk 9y ago
    > The Hobbit was _not_ an x86 chip, hence the delay its discontinuation introduced. Exactly my point. > I was not suggesting that an architecture change was necessary for Hololens, but are there a large range of low-power/mobile x86 SoCs out there to choose from? I know ARM has sucked up most of the oxygen in this particular room, but surely someone other than Intel is working on a similar line? ARM and x86 have readily available implementation for Windows OneCore.
- Azerb 9y ago
  x86 is not easily swappable by any means. From voltage supplies/rail timing, crystal requirements, different device drivers and FW rewrites, etc. Changing CPUs on a modern design is a huge reset. Source: PM for a hardware product line
- asveikau 9y ago
  > As for hololens, the current version is approaching EOL anyway. Does it make sense to call it "EOL" for a product that never took off? When was the "L"? Wikipedia says released March 2016 for a dev version, and an unspecified time this year as a consumer version. That is a rather short lifetime.
dgacmu 9y ago
The article quite clearly suggests that the discontinuation of the chip was initiated by Microsoft because they're not going to use it any more...
- BoiledCabbage 9y ago
  > The article quite clearly suggests Are you asking too much?
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by evgen 9y ago

zeusk 9y ago

not sure where you're getting that from, x86 chips are swappable with little design considerations apart from socket, TDP and in very edge cases - IO. As for hololens, the current version is approaching EOL anyway.

evgen 9y ago
The Hobbit was _not_ an x86 chip, hence the delay its discontinuation introduced. I was not suggesting that an architecture change was necessary for Hololens, but are there a large range of low-power/mobile x86 SoCs out there to choose from? I know ARM has sucked up most of the oxygen in this particular room, but surely someone other than Intel is working on a similar line?
- zeusk 9y ago
  > The Hobbit was _not_ an x86 chip, hence the delay its discontinuation introduced. Exactly my point. > I was not suggesting that an architecture change was necessary for Hololens, but are there a large range of low-power/mobile x86 SoCs out there to choose from? I know ARM has sucked up most of the oxygen in this particular room, but surely someone other than Intel is working on a similar line? ARM and x86 have readily available implementation for Windows OneCore.
Azerb 9y ago
x86 is not easily swappable by any means. From voltage supplies/rail timing, crystal requirements, different device drivers and FW rewrites, etc. Changing CPUs on a modern design is a huge reset. Source: PM for a hardware product line
asveikau 9y ago
> As for hololens, the current version is approaching EOL anyway. Does it make sense to call it "EOL" for a product that never took off? When was the "L"? Wikipedia says released March 2016 for a dev version, and an unspecified time this year as a consumer version. That is a rather short lifetime.

dgacmu 9y ago

The article quite clearly suggests that the discontinuation of the chip was initiated by Microsoft because they're not going to use it any more...

BoiledCabbage 9y ago
> The article quite clearly suggests Are you asking too much?
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