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> scallops and stingray Ray and skate is nothing like scallops. > calamari and pork Again, nothing alike. > chocolate and flavored vegetable oil Chocolate

> scallops and stingray Ray and skate is nothing like scallops. > calamari and pork Again, nothing alike. > chocolate and flavored vegetable oil Chocolate contains more elements than just cocoa butter, so you can't just replace it with vegetable oil. I'm sure there's some chocolate out there that cuts vegetable oil into the cocoa butter, but I've personally not come across it.

Isamu 9y ago
> Ray and skate is nothing like scallops. They are frequently substituted, cut out in little circles, and sold as "scallops". It is legal to do so (in the US.) The poster is complaining about mislabeling.
- p0wn 9y ago
  Frequently where? I believe this is yet another urban legend. The meat looks different.
  - rukuu001 9y ago
    Here in Australia. A lot of people just aren't familiar enough with the real thing to know the difference.
  - pvaldes 9y ago
    And the taste is totally different
- jpatokal 9y ago
  This was elevated to meme status by a mention in Jaws, but neither the FDA or the National Fisheries Institute are buying it. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-09-29/entertainment/9409290143_1_sea-scallops-pickle-packers-international-vlasic http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-09-29/entertainment/... https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39179/are-cheap-scallops-made-from-flounders-or-stingrays https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39179/are-cheap...
- kbart 9y ago
  "It is legal to do so (in the US.)" How is that possible? Isn't that plain lying? Can't you sue such company? As an European, I can't comprehend that. If something is labelled "scallops" it must be real scallops or else you would get sanctioned immediately after somebody finds out it's not and fills a complain. If substitutes are used, it must be labeled as "scallops flavored" or smth.
cmurphycode 9y ago
https://www.today.com/food/chocoholics-sour-new-hersheys-formula-2D80555560 https://www.today.com/food/chocoholics-sour-new-hersheys-for...
jwilk 9y ago
> I'm sure there's some chocolate out there that cuts vegetable oil into the cocoa butter, but I've personally not come across it. You should come to Poland. :-(
sfeng 9y ago
It's referred to as 'compound chocolate' [1]. It's done because to make paletable chocolate you need to add a greater porportion of cocoa butter than is in cocoa beans themselves. This makes the cocoa butter more expensive than the cocoa solids/powder. To save money low end chocolate replaces some or all of the cocoa butter with other oils, and uses chemicals to doctor up the chocolate to create something with roughly the same experience. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_chocolate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_chocolate

Isamu 9y ago

> Ray and skate is nothing like scallops. They are frequently substituted, cut out in little circles, and sold as "scallops". It is legal to do so (in the US.) The poster is complaining about mislabeling.

p0wn 9y ago
Frequently where? I believe this is yet another urban legend. The meat looks different.
- rukuu001 9y ago
  Here in Australia. A lot of people just aren't familiar enough with the real thing to know the difference.
- pvaldes 9y ago
  And the taste is totally different
jpatokal 9y ago
This was elevated to meme status by a mention in Jaws, but neither the FDA or the National Fisheries Institute are buying it. http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-09-29/entertainment/9409290143_1_sea-scallops-pickle-packers-international-vlasic http://articles.chicagotribune.com/1994-09-29/entertainment/... https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39179/are-cheap-scallops-made-from-flounders-or-stingrays https://skeptics.stackexchange.com/questions/39179/are-cheap...
kbart 9y ago
"It is legal to do so (in the US.)" How is that possible? Isn't that plain lying? Can't you sue such company? As an European, I can't comprehend that. If something is labelled "scallops" it must be real scallops or else you would get sanctioned immediately after somebody finds out it's not and fills a complain. If substitutes are used, it must be labeled as "scallops flavored" or smth.

cmurphycode 9y ago

https://www.today.com/food/chocoholics-sour-new-hersheys-formula-2D80555560 https://www.today.com/food/chocoholics-sour-new-hersheys-for...

jwilk 9y ago

> I'm sure there's some chocolate out there that cuts vegetable oil into the cocoa butter, but I've personally not come across it. You should come to Poland. :-(

sfeng 9y ago

It's referred to as 'compound chocolate' [1]. It's done because to make paletable chocolate you need to add a greater porportion of cocoa butter than is in cocoa beans themselves. This makes the cocoa butter more expensive than the cocoa solids/powder. To save money low end chocolate replaces some or all of the cocoa butter with other oils, and uses chemicals to doctor up the chocolate to create something with roughly the same experience. [1] - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_chocolate https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compound_chocolate