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Do pretty much all programmers in Microsoft get their own office? Is it as simple as that or there's more to it?
by borplk 9y ago
Do pretty much all programmers in Microsoft get their own office?
Is it as simple as that or there's more to it?
- jmspring 9y agoDepends on the group, there is a push for open offices of late.
- Qworg 9y agoIn Research, everyone still has offices.
- latencyloser 9y agoDefinitely depends on the group, but I think mostly just whatever building you happen to be in. The building I'm in is newly remodeled. Meaning entirely open-office. In my opinion, my building/group/whatever does it wrong by jamming so many bodies in the same room together. There's 26 desks here in a room that looks as though it could comfortable fit about half that many. I've since adopted big sound-proof headphones and a wall of monitors that eliminate most distractions. But the biggest annoyance to me is that there's constantly a line for the bathrooms. Too many people for what the building was originally designed for, I think. Assuming we better limited the room capacity, I could likely tolerate this just fine.
- colanderman 9y ago> Too many people for what the building was originally designed for OSHA regulates the ratio of employees to toilets ("water closets"). Check this table [1] and file an OSHA complaint [2] if the requirement isn't met. [1] https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_table=STANDARDS&p_id=9790#1910.141%28c%29%281%29%28i%29 https://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owadisp.show_document?p_tab... [2] https://www.osha.gov/pls/osha7/eComplaintForm.html https://www.osha.gov/pls/osha7/eComplaintForm.html
- hinkley 9y agoI assume those numbers are per employee by gender, right? If my company managed gender equality we'd be right at the limit if all the desks were full. Maybe that's why the facilities guy gets cranky if people take over meeting rooms for contractors or interns? A certain online retailer of books and counterfeit electronics has slightly larger bathrooms and a similar layout in its new buildings, but worse gender equality. They may actually be in violation.
- colanderman 9y agoYour assumption is correct. Men's and women's toilet facilities are counted separately for each sex by OSHA. The exception is single-occupancy rooms, which can count for either sex. (It's not clear the exact algorithm one should use in counting a mixture of multi- and single-person restrooms, but I would presume it's something like, count all the men that can use your male restrooms, count all the women that can use your female restrooms, and take everyone left over and see if they fit is your unisex restrooms.)
- hackermailman 9y agoVancouver office is open floor hell, themed on a garage, with another open floor hanging above you for extra noise in case all the noise of one floor wasn't enough. There's some attempts to suppress noise with glass but is more cosmetic than effective.
- borplk 9y agoThere we go so since people are saying "it depends" I guess you can't just go work for them on that basis. And I bet if you bring it up during the process it wont help at all.
- IMcD23 9y agoI’m in Office, and my whole building has nice-sized offices for engineers and PMs.