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Yes. This is all handled via udev, udisks & co., XFCE, Gnome and KDE have nothing to do with it (other than having it work more or less out of the box).

cpach 9y ago
Cool. Is much tweaking needed to get it to work smoothly?
- vesinisa 9y ago
  If you mean auto-mounting on inserting USB devices, it is handled a bit differently depending on your distribution. E.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs I personally don't think it's that much of a trouble to just journalctl for the /dev/sdX of the inserted device and then sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt/tmp manually, because I so rarely plug USB drives. For permanently attached or frequently used devices you can add them to fstab and mount by UUID to a fixed path. Either way, you will still always need to umount manually or risk loosing data.
- notalaser 9y ago
  Honestly -- I have no idea, I only had to do it a few times, on Yocto and buildroot images, and in pretty restricted cases. It was pretty easy (basically udev has this file which matches a set of device selection rules with a set of actions, effectively saying "if I encounter a device of this type, I'm going to do these particular things"), but I googled my way through it. I expect there are some distro-specific hoops to jump through, but I have no idea which ones -- I really don't like automounting, I keep it disabled even on KDE. (Why? Old habits die hard, I guess?)
JdeBP 9y ago
Of course, since the headlined article mentions the absence of systemd, this raises the question of whether there is udev in there.
- vesinisa 9y ago
  They do have it: http://www.aiei.ch/gnustep/gnustep-2.5.txt http://www.aiei.ch/gnustep/gnustep-2.5.txt udev existed before systemd, but was merged to it sometime in 2014. By quick Googling there are still several forks that maintain it as a separate component.
  - ktRolster 9y ago
    My understanding is it's in the same repository (for convenience), but is logically separate, so "forking" it mainly means copying the correct directory.
    - gens 9y ago
      No, it's tied to systemd. That was one of the big reasons behind systemd adoption in the first place.
      - LukeShu 9y ago
        Eh, not really. Many Parabola users who use OpenRC instead of systemd still use systemd-udev, as opposed to eudev or one of the other non-system forks.
- notalaser 9y ago
  I don't know what they use, but there's always eudev, Gentoo's fork which works just fine, and offers pretty much everything that udev offers (except for the systemd dependency).
  - JdeBP 9y ago
    The headlined article explains that it is Debian 9, which does not have eudev, nor vdev (which is in Devuan), nor Suckless mdev.

cpach 9y ago

Cool. Is much tweaking needed to get it to work smoothly?

vesinisa 9y ago
If you mean auto-mounting on inserting USB devices, it is handled a bit differently depending on your distribution. E.g. https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Udisks https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs https://wiki.debian.org/AutoFs I personally don't think it's that much of a trouble to just journalctl for the /dev/sdX of the inserted device and then sudo mount /dev/sdX /mnt/tmp manually, because I so rarely plug USB drives. For permanently attached or frequently used devices you can add them to fstab and mount by UUID to a fixed path. Either way, you will still always need to umount manually or risk loosing data.
notalaser 9y ago
Honestly -- I have no idea, I only had to do it a few times, on Yocto and buildroot images, and in pretty restricted cases. It was pretty easy (basically udev has this file which matches a set of device selection rules with a set of actions, effectively saying "if I encounter a device of this type, I'm going to do these particular things"), but I googled my way through it. I expect there are some distro-specific hoops to jump through, but I have no idea which ones -- I really don't like automounting, I keep it disabled even on KDE. (Why? Old habits die hard, I guess?)

JdeBP 9y ago

Of course, since the headlined article mentions the absence of systemd, this raises the question of whether there is udev in there.

vesinisa 9y ago
They do have it: http://www.aiei.ch/gnustep/gnustep-2.5.txt http://www.aiei.ch/gnustep/gnustep-2.5.txt udev existed before systemd, but was merged to it sometime in 2014. By quick Googling there are still several forks that maintain it as a separate component.
- ktRolster 9y ago
  My understanding is it's in the same repository (for convenience), but is logically separate, so "forking" it mainly means copying the correct directory.
  - gens 9y ago
    No, it's tied to systemd. That was one of the big reasons behind systemd adoption in the first place.
    - LukeShu 9y ago
      Eh, not really. Many Parabola users who use OpenRC instead of systemd still use systemd-udev, as opposed to eudev or one of the other non-system forks.
notalaser 9y ago
I don't know what they use, but there's always eudev, Gentoo's fork which works just fine, and offers pretty much everything that udev offers (except for the systemd dependency).
- JdeBP 9y ago
  The headlined article explains that it is Debian 9, which does not have eudev, nor vdev (which is in Devuan), nor Suckless mdev.