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The main problem both systems have is that they're relatively immature. node.js is still undergoing heavy development, with a few breaking changes every couple

by mhd 16y ago

The main problem both systems have is that they're relatively immature. node.js is still undergoing heavy development, with a few breaking changes every couple of releases (although it's slowing down in that regard). And aleph basically just came out, right? So I'd regard both as "things to watch" or bootstrapping solutions, not something I'd use for my Global Thermonuclear War management system.

stratospark 16y ago
But they're already using node to manage Global Thermonuclear War: http://wargamez.mape.me/ http://wargamez.mape.me/
Periodic 16y ago
I agree. I had a similar problem with CouchDB a while ago when I tried to write the application in CouchDB. The interface was there, but it was obvious that some of the key features hadn't been implemented yet, requiring painful and complex workarounds. I went back to technologies I knew were tried and true. If you're interested in playing around with tech and having fun, then these technologies are great. But for business I would avoid them for now. I'm hoping they gain some traction though.
prospero 16y ago
I wrote Aleph this weekend, so yes, it's very new. However, right now it's just a few hundred lines around Netty, which is anything but immature. I'm certainly not claiming it's flawless, or that there won't be any breaking changes in the future. However, I think this is a great example of one of Clojure's strengths: even brand new projects tend to have solid, well-tested foundations.
- mhd 16y ago
  Well, the same could be said about node.js and libev, to be honest.
j_baker 16y ago
Of course if that's what you're looking for, twisted[1] is the only way to go. [1] http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/
- mhd 16y ago
  For event-based frameworks, if I'm generally in the market for reliable concurrency, Erlang would probably be a prime candidate, too.

by mhd 16y ago

stratospark 16y ago

But they're already using node to manage Global Thermonuclear War: http://wargamez.mape.me/ http://wargamez.mape.me/

Periodic 16y ago

I agree. I had a similar problem with CouchDB a while ago when I tried to write the application in CouchDB. The interface was there, but it was obvious that some of the key features hadn't been implemented yet, requiring painful and complex workarounds. I went back to technologies I knew were tried and true. If you're interested in playing around with tech and having fun, then these technologies are great. But for business I would avoid them for now. I'm hoping they gain some traction though.

prospero 16y ago

I wrote Aleph this weekend, so yes, it's very new. However, right now it's just a few hundred lines around Netty, which is anything but immature. I'm certainly not claiming it's flawless, or that there won't be any breaking changes in the future. However, I think this is a great example of one of Clojure's strengths: even brand new projects tend to have solid, well-tested foundations.

mhd 16y ago
Well, the same could be said about node.js and libev, to be honest.

j_baker 16y ago

Of course if that's what you're looking for, twisted[1] is the only way to go. [1] http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/

mhd 16y ago
For event-based frameworks, if I'm generally in the market for reliable concurrency, Erlang would probably be a prime candidate, too.