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Courts in Germany do not generally agree that you can record somebody and use that that recording in court, because of "Recht am eigenen Bild". Even if a burgl

by madez 9y ago

Courts in Germany do not generally agree that you can record somebody and use that that recording in court, because of "Recht am eigenen Bild". Even if a burglar enters your house, you may photograph him, but you cannot use that photo in court. You need to have a sign at the entry telling that you are doing video recordings on your property. Source: police information event. Still, if you question authority, you need to be prepared. In this case I would recommend immediate upload of the material, so taking or damaging the phone wouldn't help them.

thriftwy 9y ago
I can see how it has a point for public places (e.g. bars). But this makes negative sense for your house. What's "at the entry" in case of burglar anyway? Door? Now they just have to claim they entered via window and did not see the sign. How is that any good? Any restrictions on how citizens protect their property in court should be gravely discouraged. This is just plain taking rights from citizens to award them to feudals (of which police is a member)
- madez 9y ago
  According to police, all normal entries would need that warning. A windows is not a normal entry point. It is even enough to have a barricade tape around your land. What is important is that there is a visible border that indicates that crossing is not wanted.
  - thriftwy 9y ago
    Land is one thing and home is another thing. It's obvious that you should have some kind of fence before ever accusing anybody of trespassing. But burglary inside an apartment is another thing entirely isn't it?
    - madez 9y ago
      Sure, I wasn't talking about the legality of burglary, but the legality of video record others on your ground, or house for that matter. If your house has a door, unallowed entry is automatically "Hausfriedensberuch" unless under some limited circumstances. Still, you need a sign beside the door if you want to video record burglars and use that recording in court. I think it's stupid, but that's the way it is, apparently.
      - thriftwy 9y ago
        > I think it's stupid, but that's the way it is I hope it's not their line when Last Judgement comes.

by madez 9y ago

thriftwy 9y ago

I can see how it has a point for public places (e.g. bars). But this makes negative sense for your house. What's "at the entry" in case of burglar anyway? Door? Now they just have to claim they entered via window and did not see the sign. How is that any good? Any restrictions on how citizens protect their property in court should be gravely discouraged. This is just plain taking rights from citizens to award them to feudals (of which police is a member)

madez 9y ago
According to police, all normal entries would need that warning. A windows is not a normal entry point. It is even enough to have a barricade tape around your land. What is important is that there is a visible border that indicates that crossing is not wanted.
- thriftwy 9y ago
  Land is one thing and home is another thing. It's obvious that you should have some kind of fence before ever accusing anybody of trespassing. But burglary inside an apartment is another thing entirely isn't it?
  - madez 9y ago
    Sure, I wasn't talking about the legality of burglary, but the legality of video record others on your ground, or house for that matter. If your house has a door, unallowed entry is automatically "Hausfriedensberuch" unless under some limited circumstances. Still, you need a sign beside the door if you want to video record burglars and use that recording in court. I think it's stupid, but that's the way it is, apparently.
    - thriftwy 9y ago
      > I think it's stupid, but that's the way it is I hope it's not their line when Last Judgement comes.