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> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open I'm not and I don't store/restore tabs on close, so that's not the case here. It's just Firefox + Vimperator + uBl

by exDM69 9y ago

> If you're the type with a lot of tabs open I'm not and I don't store/restore tabs on close, so that's not the case here. It's just Firefox + Vimperator + uBlock origin with about:blank as home page. I'm on Linux/X11 if that matters.

simias 9y ago
That's odd, from SSD a cold firefox start takes a few seconds on my debian testing (using firefox 54 from apt). Maybe you're using a slow HDD?
- exDM69 9y ago
  Nope. It's a lightning fast m.2 SSD. And warm caches don't help either.
  - vanderZwan 9y ago
    Are Vimperator + uBlock origin the only active add-ons? The Ubuntu Modifications one is known to cause slowdowns, for example. What happens if you try to completely reset the Firefox profile, and bring back the plugins you want?
    - exDM69 9y ago
      Happens without any extensions. I'm on Arch Linux, not Ubuntu. I don't care enough to debug it further. Firefox is stable enough these days that restarting it isn't even a daily occurence. I have enough patience to wait that 10+ seconds, it's just a minor annoyance.
bovine3dom 9y ago
This is probably a good place to plug the fact that Vimperator is going to die with FF57 [1]. If anyone wants to help with making an alternative, look through that thread. I'm particularly invested in Tridactyl [2] but other people are working on others. [1] https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705 https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705 [2] https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl
- ronjouch 9y ago
  Not strictly feature-equivalent, but there's already a working (I use it everyday) port of Vimium for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
- StevePerkins 9y ago
  I've been using VimFX all along, which is actively maintained and already compatible with multiprocess. It's a web browser, not an actual text editor. 99% of the time, you're just wanting familiar keyboard commands for navigation. It feels like Vimperator does so many impractical things almost tongue-in-cheek, just to show how cool it is that they're theoretically possible.
  - ronjouch 9y ago
    VimFx is not compatible with multiprocess, it will stop working soon. See https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860 https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860 : - You can use the current VimFx for the rest of 2017. - Then, Vimium is your best bet: philc/vimium#2425 - VimFx is free software, so if somebody feels like converting it to a WebExtension they're totally free to do so! (But you're probably going to spend your time more wisely on Vimium.) - I hope to create a new add-on with the best parts from VimFx some day. - Firefox will become a better browser! It’s sad but worth the sacrifice. Vimium-FF does works right now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
    - inyourtenement 9y ago
      Ugh, that sucks, I just switched to VimFx because I thought it was ff57+ compatible. Now I'm not sure where I got that idea. I haven't used vimium-ff, but it hasn't been updated in 3 months and the comments on mozilla are not encouraging.
    - ronjouch 9y ago
      Well, "soon" is tomorrow August 11: "PSA: Legacy extensions disabled by default on Nightly": https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2017-August/003059.html https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2017-August/00...

by exDM69 9y ago

simias 9y ago

That's odd, from SSD a cold firefox start takes a few seconds on my debian testing (using firefox 54 from apt). Maybe you're using a slow HDD?

exDM69 9y ago
Nope. It's a lightning fast m.2 SSD. And warm caches don't help either.
- vanderZwan 9y ago
  Are Vimperator + uBlock origin the only active add-ons? The Ubuntu Modifications one is known to cause slowdowns, for example. What happens if you try to completely reset the Firefox profile, and bring back the plugins you want?
  - exDM69 9y ago
    Happens without any extensions. I'm on Arch Linux, not Ubuntu. I don't care enough to debug it further. Firefox is stable enough these days that restarting it isn't even a daily occurence. I have enough patience to wait that 10+ seconds, it's just a minor annoyance.

bovine3dom 9y ago

This is probably a good place to plug the fact that Vimperator is going to die with FF57 [1]. If anyone wants to help with making an alternative, look through that thread. I'm particularly invested in Tridactyl [2] but other people are working on others. [1] https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705 https://github.com/vimperator/vimperator-labs/issues/705 [2] https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl https://github.com/cmcaine/tridactyl

ronjouch 9y ago
Not strictly feature-equivalent, but there's already a working (I use it everyday) port of Vimium for Firefox: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
StevePerkins 9y ago
I've been using VimFX all along, which is actively maintained and already compatible with multiprocess. It's a web browser, not an actual text editor. 99% of the time, you're just wanting familiar keyboard commands for navigation. It feels like Vimperator does so many impractical things almost tongue-in-cheek, just to show how cool it is that they're theoretically possible.
- ronjouch 9y ago
  VimFx is not compatible with multiprocess, it will stop working soon. See https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860 https://github.com/akhodakivskiy/VimFx/issues/860 : - You can use the current VimFx for the rest of 2017. - Then, Vimium is your best bet: philc/vimium#2425 - VimFx is free software, so if somebody feels like converting it to a WebExtension they're totally free to do so! (But you're probably going to spend your time more wisely on Vimium.) - I hope to create a new add-on with the best parts from VimFx some day. - Firefox will become a better browser! It’s sad but worth the sacrifice. Vimium-FF does works right now: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimium-ff/
  - inyourtenement 9y ago
    Ugh, that sucks, I just switched to VimFx because I thought it was ff57+ compatible. Now I'm not sure where I got that idea. I haven't used vimium-ff, but it hasn't been updated in 3 months and the comments on mozilla are not encouraging.
  - ronjouch 9y ago
    Well, "soon" is tomorrow August 11: "PSA: Legacy extensions disabled by default on Nightly": https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2017-August/003059.html https://mail.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-addons/2017-August/00...