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I'm not seeing it. Help me out? It's not a contradiction, if that's what you're implying. Have you ever taken a statistics class?

zimpenfish 9y ago
Oh, throwaway257157, if I thought you were posting in good faith, I'd certainly engage with you but using a newly created account means you aren't.
- anon_d 9y ago
  They are publically defending an argument that got someone fired, so using a throwaway account is totally reasonable here.
- jshevek 9y ago
  No. Assuming someone is posting in bad faith for this reason is an act of bad faith. Your statement reveals hypocrisy.
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    A throwaway account created specifically to post one comment is a sign of bad faith. It's entirely possible that I am wrong but the lack of subsequent engagement suggests otherwise.
    - jshevek 9y ago
      "using a newly created account means you aren't." This is wrong. Using a newly created account does not mean the communicator is approaching this in bad faith. That's a complete non sequitor. "lack of subsequent engagement suggests otherwise." Not at all. There are numerous reason they might not engage further within this time frame - or ever.
      - zimpenfish 9y ago
        > Using a newly created account does not mean [...] bad faith Specifically to post one (1) comment strongly implies it though. You disagree, fine; we'll agree to differ on this.
- hhhsdfnn888 9y ago
  Wow you post a seemingly legit email address and other details, then act like a douche. Personally, I don't want to be signed up for spam, or have it found in some AshleyMadison like leak. I don't care about fake points. I don't care about community rep. So I don't curate an online persona. But you know what, zimpenfish, you're right. The first conclusion that crosses the mind if zimpenfish is of course the right answer.
- depressedpanda 9y ago
  The point the throwaway raises is valid, though. Where is the contradiction?
  - zimpenfish 9y ago
    If you can't see it already, I doubt anything I could say to you would help that.
    - depressedpanda 9y ago
      What I see is that you don't understand statistics. And, rather than offer a snide comment, I will try to show you why. Here are the two statements you quoted: > He explicitely did not say (nor mean) that a woman can't be a good software engineer. > Just that on average, more men than women will show the features needed for software engineers. Rephrased: a) a woman can be a good software engineer b) on average, more men possess the skill set required for a software engineer There is no contradiction between a) and b) whatsoever, since a) is about an individual and b) is about average features of different groups. Of course, one may argue about the veracity of either a) or b). But, regardless of their factual accuracy, you did not make the point you think you did.

zimpenfish 9y ago

Oh, throwaway257157, if I thought you were posting in good faith, I'd certainly engage with you but using a newly created account means you aren't.

anon_d 9y ago
They are publically defending an argument that got someone fired, so using a throwaway account is totally reasonable here.
jshevek 9y ago
No. Assuming someone is posting in bad faith for this reason is an act of bad faith. Your statement reveals hypocrisy.
- zimpenfish 9y ago
  A throwaway account created specifically to post one comment is a sign of bad faith. It's entirely possible that I am wrong but the lack of subsequent engagement suggests otherwise.
  - jshevek 9y ago
    "using a newly created account means you aren't." This is wrong. Using a newly created account does not mean the communicator is approaching this in bad faith. That's a complete non sequitor. "lack of subsequent engagement suggests otherwise." Not at all. There are numerous reason they might not engage further within this time frame - or ever.
    - zimpenfish 9y ago
      > Using a newly created account does not mean [...] bad faith Specifically to post one (1) comment strongly implies it though. You disagree, fine; we'll agree to differ on this.
hhhsdfnn888 9y ago
Wow you post a seemingly legit email address and other details, then act like a douche. Personally, I don't want to be signed up for spam, or have it found in some AshleyMadison like leak. I don't care about fake points. I don't care about community rep. So I don't curate an online persona. But you know what, zimpenfish, you're right. The first conclusion that crosses the mind if zimpenfish is of course the right answer.
depressedpanda 9y ago
The point the throwaway raises is valid, though. Where is the contradiction?
- zimpenfish 9y ago
  If you can't see it already, I doubt anything I could say to you would help that.
  - depressedpanda 9y ago
    What I see is that you don't understand statistics. And, rather than offer a snide comment, I will try to show you why. Here are the two statements you quoted: > He explicitely did not say (nor mean) that a woman can't be a good software engineer. > Just that on average, more men than women will show the features needed for software engineers. Rephrased: a) a woman can be a good software engineer b) on average, more men possess the skill set required for a software engineer There is no contradiction between a) and b) whatsoever, since a) is about an individual and b) is about average features of different groups. Of course, one may argue about the veracity of either a) or b). But, regardless of their factual accuracy, you did not make the point you think you did.