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The right way to do iPhone 4.0 OS Backgrounding . . .

16 points by aresant 16y ago

ant5 16y ago
It seems like disrupting the user is the exact opposite of what Apple was trying to achieve with background support. The right way to do backgrounding: - Consume the least amount of CPU possible. Optimize, optimize, optimize! If you're implementing a network app and there are no events coming in over the network, your process should be doing nothing, blocked in the kernel. - Drop as much RAM as possible before you go under. There's only so much RAM on the device. Apple's frameworks try to drop as much as they can, but if you're holding onto a cache or anything that can reasonably be reconstructed, now is the time to drop it. This increases the likelihood of you surviving in the background after your process has been put to sleep, too. - Work seamlessly. If iOS terminates your app due to low resources, re-start exactly where you were before. Don't show an annoying dialog like this one when you switch to the background. Don't show a ridiculous "splash" screen that wastes user's time. Just work. If done right, you can maintain a very small footprint, and then you don't need to annoy the user by asking every time: "is this OK?".
- vito 16y ago
  Agreed. Don't remind the user that your app is going to use an OS feature that's meant to be pretty transparent. Especially if yours is the only app that nags them about it; it'll just confuse non-geeks and make them think you're doing something weird.
- thought_alarm 16y ago
  That was my initial reaction, too. But for an app like Trapster it might not be a bad idea. (I haven't used it, but I guess it's an app for tracking speed traps) Most apps do nothing in the background. Others, like music or GPS apps, it should be obvious to the user that these apps are doing stuff in the background. For an app like Trapster, however, it would be easy for the user to forget or not understand that it's working in the background. I, as a user, might appreciate this kind of warning from an app that I normally would not want running in the background. By default, I would have it not do anything in the background (which is how it obviously works on OS 3). I would have a setting that enables it to run in the background, as well as a setting that enables the warning. It sounds like that's exactly what they're doing, although I don't know what their default behavior is.
  - fortybillion 16y ago
    If the app is using the background GPS process, there's already an indicator in the title bar (the little purple arrow) showing that the GPS is being used.
jonknee 16y ago
I'd likely delete an app that tried to pull that, the whole point of background processing is not to bug the user.
Terretta 16y ago
Ok, I was just trying to quickly switch to another app, but thanks for telling me. Now that you've told me, if I don't want to consume the battery, what do I click? Or, consuming the battery is fine, and I want to keep Trapster running. What do I click? // Seems this is a better example of the wrong way to do backgrounding.
BigZaphod 16y ago
This is very much the wrong thing to do. When I push the home button, I expect the app to go away so I can get on with the next thing. I certainly don't expect it to desperately attempt to preempt my attention one last time.
powrtoch 16y ago
Re: most of these comments: I'd be okay with it as long as it only popped this up the first time it went to background mode. Arguably it'd even be a good feature since a lot of users might not know about the tradeoff involved in backgrounding.
- bonaldi 16y ago
  There's no problem with asking the user about this; the point is not to do when the app is going into background. If you're concerned that most of your users won't want this, then turn it off by default and have an option to turn it on. The model to follow here is the iTunes Remote app. It allows you to remain connected in the background, but you have to activate it from settings, where there's a little explanation of the trade-off. Doing it the way this app does is plain nasty.
drivebyacct2 16y ago
For varying definitions of "right". On my phone, Trapster runs, displays an icon in the notification bar and you know "just works" (where have I heard this before) with no user interference. Some mobile OSes have an application architecture and structure that were built to be multitasked, others are only now adding it and it shows in some apps, like this. It's all about the mindset that the platform takes to multitasking. That is, if you want to call the various implementations "multitasking".
pclark 16y ago
I'd rather Apple just offer a "notification" API in iOS4.1 that lets apps push their state to the user.
pkulak 16y ago
Why do you need to tell the user that you're going to keep working in the background for 10 lousy minutes? Because, that's all you get.
trapster 16y ago
Trapster allows users to choose whether to run in the background or not. You can also choose to receive push notification if background running isn't your style but you still want to be updated of live enforcement points or road hazards. We want our user to be happy and we listen to their ideas. I hope you'll give the app a try, over 6.9 million users world-wide have :) ~Stefanie

16 points by aresant 16y ago

ant5 16y ago

It seems like disrupting the user is the exact opposite of what Apple was trying to achieve with background support. The right way to do backgrounding: - Consume the least amount of CPU possible. Optimize, optimize, optimize! If you're implementing a network app and there are no events coming in over the network, your process should be doing nothing, blocked in the kernel. - Drop as much RAM as possible before you go under. There's only so much RAM on the device. Apple's frameworks try to drop as much as they can, but if you're holding onto a cache or anything that can reasonably be reconstructed, now is the time to drop it. This increases the likelihood of you surviving in the background after your process has been put to sleep, too. - Work seamlessly. If iOS terminates your app due to low resources, re-start exactly where you were before. Don't show an annoying dialog like this one when you switch to the background. Don't show a ridiculous "splash" screen that wastes user's time. Just work. If done right, you can maintain a very small footprint, and then you don't need to annoy the user by asking every time: "is this OK?".

vito 16y ago
Agreed. Don't remind the user that your app is going to use an OS feature that's meant to be pretty transparent. Especially if yours is the only app that nags them about it; it'll just confuse non-geeks and make them think you're doing something weird.
thought_alarm 16y ago
That was my initial reaction, too. But for an app like Trapster it might not be a bad idea. (I haven't used it, but I guess it's an app for tracking speed traps) Most apps do nothing in the background. Others, like music or GPS apps, it should be obvious to the user that these apps are doing stuff in the background. For an app like Trapster, however, it would be easy for the user to forget or not understand that it's working in the background. I, as a user, might appreciate this kind of warning from an app that I normally would not want running in the background. By default, I would have it not do anything in the background (which is how it obviously works on OS 3). I would have a setting that enables it to run in the background, as well as a setting that enables the warning. It sounds like that's exactly what they're doing, although I don't know what their default behavior is.
- fortybillion 16y ago
  If the app is using the background GPS process, there's already an indicator in the title bar (the little purple arrow) showing that the GPS is being used.

jonknee 16y ago

I'd likely delete an app that tried to pull that, the whole point of background processing is not to bug the user.

Terretta 16y ago

Ok, I was just trying to quickly switch to another app, but thanks for telling me. Now that you've told me, if I don't want to consume the battery, what do I click? Or, consuming the battery is fine, and I want to keep Trapster running. What do I click? // Seems this is a better example of the wrong way to do backgrounding.

BigZaphod 16y ago

This is very much the wrong thing to do. When I push the home button, I expect the app to go away so I can get on with the next thing. I certainly don't expect it to desperately attempt to preempt my attention one last time.

powrtoch 16y ago

Re: most of these comments: I'd be okay with it as long as it only popped this up the first time it went to background mode. Arguably it'd even be a good feature since a lot of users might not know about the tradeoff involved in backgrounding.

bonaldi 16y ago
There's no problem with asking the user about this; the point is not to do when the app is going into background. If you're concerned that most of your users won't want this, then turn it off by default and have an option to turn it on. The model to follow here is the iTunes Remote app. It allows you to remain connected in the background, but you have to activate it from settings, where there's a little explanation of the trade-off. Doing it the way this app does is plain nasty.

drivebyacct2 16y ago

For varying definitions of "right". On my phone, Trapster runs, displays an icon in the notification bar and you know "just works" (where have I heard this before) with no user interference. Some mobile OSes have an application architecture and structure that were built to be multitasked, others are only now adding it and it shows in some apps, like this. It's all about the mindset that the platform takes to multitasking. That is, if you want to call the various implementations "multitasking".

pclark 16y ago

I'd rather Apple just offer a "notification" API in iOS4.1 that lets apps push their state to the user.

pkulak 16y ago

Why do you need to tell the user that you're going to keep working in the background for 10 lousy minutes? Because, that's all you get.

trapster 16y ago

Trapster allows users to choose whether to run in the background or not. You can also choose to receive push notification if background running isn't your style but you still want to be updated of live enforcement points or road hazards. We want our user to be happy and we listen to their ideas. I hope you'll give the app a try, over 6.9 million users world-wide have :) ~Stefanie