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My feeling as well. In my heart I am really happy that Lazarus (and Harbour, the Clipper-compatible compiler) exist, but being rational the days of desktop appl

by epx 9y ago

My feeling as well. In my heart I am really happy that Lazarus (and Harbour, the Clipper-compatible compiler) exist, but being rational the days of desktop applications are over. Python is being run on microcontrollers these days; I actually wrestle with the non-adoption of Python (or Ruby, or Javascript, or Tcl) as 1st-class citizen language for desktop and mobile; it does not make sense for me. Certainly writing desktop/web apps in C++ or Pascal make even less sense. Perhaps I am forgetting the big number of fellow developers that work on ERP systems and outdated software, for them it is a blessing to have free tools, while in the 90s such a tool could cost $3k.

microcolonel 9y ago
> My feeling as well. In my heart I am really happy that Lazarus (and Harbour, the Clipper-compatible compiler) exist, but being rational the days of desktop applications are over. Oh boy, I hadn't heard about Harbour until now; earlier today I was looking at the Wikipedia page for id Tech 5, and it says it uses Clipper so I was really scratching my head wondering how they pulled that off and why. Now I know, thanks for mentioning it. :- )
- int_19h 9y ago
  Wait. Why would a 3D game use Clipper? What for?
  - microcolonel 9y ago
    That's what I was wondering, I'm thinking of tracking down whoever added that to the Wikipedia page, because I don't know how they found out.
    - justin66 9y ago
      I very strongly suspect that some confused person (or algorithm?) saw that that the level design tool Radiant has a "clipper" and ran with it.
      - microcolonel 9y ago
        https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Id_Tech_5&diff=prev&oldid=585705338 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Id_Tech_5&diff=pr... Hard to say, bots usually have usernames, so probably a person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.100.138.37 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.100.1... They also seem to have added a similar section to the id Tech 6 article, it's possible they're just an insider. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015&diff=prev&oldid=610736224 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015&diff=prev&ol... But looking at other edits from this address it sees like they might just be a vandal; or at least somebody who is very confused about how Wikipedia works.
- Jack4E4B 9y ago
  Just you wait edge computing will move a lot of power to the client... it's coming, especially for AI, cars and any intelligent device.
tonyedgecombe 9y ago
If someone is working on ERP systems then I don't think the cost is going to be that significant to them.
pjmlp 9y ago
> Python is being run on microcontrollers these days; So does Pascal and its descendent Oberon, including FPGAs. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/ https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/ http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm Natively compiled to machine code, safe, without any help of C.

by epx 9y ago

microcolonel 9y ago

> My feeling as well. In my heart I am really happy that Lazarus (and Harbour, the Clipper-compatible compiler) exist, but being rational the days of desktop applications are over. Oh boy, I hadn't heard about Harbour until now; earlier today I was looking at the Wikipedia page for id Tech 5, and it says it uses Clipper so I was really scratching my head wondering how they pulled that off and why. Now I know, thanks for mentioning it. :- )

int_19h 9y ago
Wait. Why would a 3D game use Clipper? What for?
- microcolonel 9y ago
  That's what I was wondering, I'm thinking of tracking down whoever added that to the Wikipedia page, because I don't know how they found out.
  - justin66 9y ago
    I very strongly suspect that some confused person (or algorithm?) saw that that the level design tool Radiant has a "clipper" and ran with it.
    - microcolonel 9y ago
      https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Id_Tech_5&diff=prev&oldid=585705338 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Id_Tech_5&diff=pr... Hard to say, bots usually have usernames, so probably a person. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.100.138.37 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.100.1... They also seem to have added a similar section to the id Tech 6 article, it's possible they're just an insider. https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015&diff=prev&oldid=610736224 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=2015&diff=prev&ol... But looking at other edits from this address it sees like they might just be a vandal; or at least somebody who is very confused about how Wikipedia works.
Jack4E4B 9y ago
Just you wait edge computing will move a lot of power to the client... it's coming, especially for AI, cars and any intelligent device.

tonyedgecombe 9y ago

If someone is working on ERP systems then I don't think the cost is going to be that significant to them.

pjmlp 9y ago

> Python is being run on microcontrollers these days; So does Pascal and its descendent Oberon, including FPGAs. https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/ https://www.mikroe.com/mikropascal/ http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm http://www.astrobe.com/default.htm Natively compiled to machine code, safe, without any help of C.