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Men in America, but not in the world in general, are more money conscious than status conscious. They're more likely to salve the idea of not having a respectab
by true_religion 9y ago
Men in America, but not in the world in general, are more money conscious than status conscious. They're more likely to salve the idea of not having a respectable job with thinking about how much money they are making.
- mcv 9y agoI doubt it. There are a lot of men who care a great deal about status. I've even heard of men who don't want to date women who make more money than them, because they feel it hurts their status. If they cared more about money, they'd gladly date a richer woman. The problem is this patriarchal idea that men should be the main breadwinner. Our culture tells them they've failed at being men if they're not the main breadwinner. It also tells them they need to go all-out making money, which makes it easier for employers to convince them to make long hours. At the same time, women have this cultural role of mothers, where they should be concerned with having children, and put their children before their job, and therefore can't be expected to work as hard as men. Alright, that doesn't explain why women are more prominent in other hard-working jobs like medicine and law. Still, it's a cultural prejudice that's still very much felt in much of society.
- dsfjksdf 9y agoIt's usually the other way round - women don't want to date men who earn less. You probably heard your version from the feminists.
- mcv 9y agoQuite the contrary. This is the first time I hear of women who refuse to date a man who earns less than them (excepting gold diggers, of course), and I've heard about men who don't want to date women who earn more than them, from men who think women should not earn more than them.
- dsfjksdf 9y agoWomen marrying up is historically the biggest driver of equality in Western societies (poor people becoming richer). Economist have identified it as a problem because as women get richer and they don't want to marry down, that mechanism for "equality" is increasingly lost. So there have been studies about this phenomenon (women not wanting to marry down), but I am too lazy to Google for them. Also, financial troubles of the husband are the strongest indicator for impeding divorce. And breakups are usually initiated by women. Every time this comes up I wonder if I should launch a dating site for rich women seeking a "houseman" for a partner. But somehow I am still not convinced yet that there is really such a huge market.
- mcv 9y agoYeah, but that's part of the old patriarchal system where men make money and women stay at home. In this age of double incomes, it should be irrelevant. Still, some people cling to the old patriarchy.
- dsfjksdf 9y agoIt's not just that, it is that women have the greater bargaining chip in the relationship. They have the womb for creating babies, so they can make more demands. Also, they make the greater investment into kids (at first, at least, over time it can change), which also warrants "compensation".
- mcv 9y agoI'm not sure what they're supposed to be bargaining about in your view. Have you ever been in a long term relationship? Because what you're describing does not sound like a healthy relationship.
- dsfjksdf 9y agoDo you have kids? Who got to stay home with the kids? Who got to work only part time when the kids grew older? Who pays the rent? That sort of thing. And, as always: on average... If you don't see it, I don't think I can convince you. There is much to learn about how the world turns.