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> I don't see how having more information can be harmful. It can be harmful in the hands of less savvy potential VPN customers, when it leads them entirely to
by davepeck 9y ago
> I don't see how having more information can be harmful.
It can be harmful in the hands of less savvy potential VPN customers, when it leads them entirely to the wrong conclusions. (You're unlikely to fit in this category.)
- LeoPanthera 9y agoLike I said, I'm pretty sure anyone can understand red=bad and green=good.
- davepeck 9y agoIf you use TOPS and simply choose the provider with the most green, you'll have made a terrible mistake.
- LeoPanthera 9y agoI never said anything about picking "the most green". The columns are labelled and described in detail on a separate page.
- davepeck 9y agoNeither, I suspect, did you read my post. We can probably end here. :-)
- JohnStrange 9y agoLooks to me like you're primarily advertising Cloaks, owned by a US-based company. There are tons of reasons why privacy-minded users would want to avoid a company under US jurisdiction, but you mention none of them.
- davepeck 9y agoThere might indeed be reasons to avoid US jurisdiction -- that's true, but it's not relevant to the point I attempt to make, which is that labeling the US "bad" by default and without qualification is silly, and is one (of several) ways TOPS might lead less savvy potential customers astray. As an aside, I'm skeptical that there are "tons" of actually good reasons to avoid US jurisdiction. I don't doubt that good reasons exist. It's just that I've seen plenty of bad ones! :-) And to clarify: no, advertising Cloak is absolutely not my goal. If you're interested, I'm always happy to recommend trustworthy VPN services that aren't Cloak. I mention Cloak in that post because in my (biased!) opinion it's a good exemplar of the six criterion I look for. That's no accident, since I co-founded Cloak and built it in part to satisfy those criterion. That I'm Cloak's co-founder is pretty clearly disclosed both here on HN and on my personal blog. I should mention, for completeness, that I'm no longer affiliated with Cloak.
- JohnStrange 9y agoNah, I don't buy your reply but totally understand your perspective. My assessment and general advice stands as is, for most people (including US citizens) it makes a lot of sense to avoid any US or UK based VPN providers. I'd personally also avoid a company operating under French jurisdiction.