Let's please not scoot straight up to tedious generic flamewars that we've all heard before. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?

Let's please not scoot straight up to tedious generic flamewars that we've all heard before. We detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14973457 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14973457 and marked it off-topic.