1360 ms·

Do you have one example of such extension that won't work with web extensions?

by zeep 9y ago

syshum 9y ago
TreeStyleTabs
- kibwen 9y ago
  I've seen people recommend this as a WebExtension-compatible replacement for TreeStyle Tabs, though I can't vouch for it myself: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/
  - syshum 9y ago
    It is no where near the same and has the same failing of the Chrome Vertical Tab Solutions like https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-side-tabs/hlnbneddcecehdhdfbbcifjpfpfdocaj?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-side-tabs/h... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vtabs/okpnlgbgcfchbicbhjmmhldhkbkfilce?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vtabs/okpnlgbgcfch... It is not part of the UI part of the browser like the XUL TreeStyleTabs but a separate Panel that ends up being buggy and feeling separate from the experience almost like managing your tabs from a separate window
    - kibwen 9y ago
      The screenshot alleges that it's in a sidebar, no? How is that different from TreeStyle Tabs, which is also in a sidebar?
    - Manishearth 9y ago
      Hiding the top tabbar is one of the webextension APIs folks are working on, IIRC.
      - amaranth 9y ago
        For now you can use userchrome.css to hide it, can't you?
        Manishearth 9y ago
        Yes, though I haven't tried that yet (I'm just going to wait for the API)
- weaksauce 9y ago
  https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 Seems they have all the APIs needed for it at the very least approved. It's not like Mozilla just said screw everyone... Let's become chrome. They are putting in the effort to make web extensions viable for even the more advanced uses.
  - syshum 9y ago
    They are making to where a version of TreeTabs are possible, this new API will enable functionality like in Chrome (see my other comment) but it will not be the same. if I wanted Chrome style Vertical tabs I would have moved to chrome years ago
    - weaksauce 9y ago
      Seeing as how there is an api in place to have a built in sidebar in firefox, plenty of tab and window API methods available, a way to hide the horizontal tabs at the top of the screen and the developer of treeStyleTabs saying that they will be able to move to webextensions fine... I fail to see how this will be inferior to an XUL extension. Can you elaborate on how the old tree style tabs is different other than using XUL? Unrelated, but the fact that the developer doesn't get the extension AMO approved and uses eval() all over the place should give some pause as well.
      - baby 9y ago
        He uses eval in safe ways, according to the developer. So I think your argument is mout unless you can point the unsafe uses. Now, the real question is: "why isn't Firefox developing a default Tree Style Tab?" I think at this point enough people are using it, and it has proven to be a better way to browse.
        weaksauce 9y ago
        He may well be using it "safely" but it still is a string that is being evaluated so it has many inherent drawbacks. > Now, the real question is: "why isn't Firefox developing a default Tree Style Tab?" > > I think at this point enough people are using it, and it has proven to be a better way to browse. Not sure there are enough users to justify taking actual mozilla engineers off core problems that are everyone's problems. There is a maintenance burden and associated cost for every feature that mozilla adds to their core product. I think they would rather make the browser extension backend robust enough to allow for those types of extensions without sacrificing stability, performance, and security.
jwilk 9y ago
https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/y-u-no-validate/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/y-u-no-valida...
ChickeNES 9y ago
Session Manager, which I've used since Firefox 2. To add insult to injury I downgraded to an earlier nightly and it no longer worked either, had to blow away the UI customization config and reinstall the addon for it to re-appear and work again.
CaptSpify 9y ago
vimperator https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimperator/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimperator/
yborg 9y ago
Here's 2: TileTabs Self-Destructing Cookies
jhasse 9y ago
TabCenter

Do you have one example of such extension that won't work with web extensions?

by zeep 9y ago

Do you have one example of such extension that won't work with web extensions?

syshum 9y ago

TreeStyleTabs

kibwen 9y ago
I've seen people recommend this as a WebExtension-compatible replacement for TreeStyle Tabs, though I can't vouch for it myself: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/tree-tabs/
- syshum 9y ago
  It is no where near the same and has the same failing of the Chrome Vertical Tab Solutions like https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-side-tabs/hlnbneddcecehdhdfbbcifjpfpfdocaj?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/chrome-side-tabs/h... https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vtabs/okpnlgbgcfchbicbhjmmhldhkbkfilce?hl=en https://chrome.google.com/webstore/detail/vtabs/okpnlgbgcfch... It is not part of the UI part of the browser like the XUL TreeStyleTabs but a separate Panel that ends up being buggy and feeling separate from the experience almost like managing your tabs from a separate window
  - kibwen 9y ago
    The screenshot alleges that it's in a sidebar, no? How is that different from TreeStyle Tabs, which is also in a sidebar?
  - Manishearth 9y ago
    Hiding the top tabbar is one of the webextension APIs folks are working on, IIRC.
    - amaranth 9y ago
      For now you can use userchrome.css to hide it, can't you?
      - Manishearth 9y ago
        Yes, though I haven't tried that yet (I'm just going to wait for the API)
weaksauce 9y ago
https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 https://github.com/piroor/treestyletab/issues/1224 Seems they have all the APIs needed for it at the very least approved. It's not like Mozilla just said screw everyone... Let's become chrome. They are putting in the effort to make web extensions viable for even the more advanced uses.
- syshum 9y ago
  They are making to where a version of TreeTabs are possible, this new API will enable functionality like in Chrome (see my other comment) but it will not be the same. if I wanted Chrome style Vertical tabs I would have moved to chrome years ago
  - weaksauce 9y ago
    Seeing as how there is an api in place to have a built in sidebar in firefox, plenty of tab and window API methods available, a way to hide the horizontal tabs at the top of the screen and the developer of treeStyleTabs saying that they will be able to move to webextensions fine... I fail to see how this will be inferior to an XUL extension. Can you elaborate on how the old tree style tabs is different other than using XUL? Unrelated, but the fact that the developer doesn't get the extension AMO approved and uses eval() all over the place should give some pause as well.
    - baby 9y ago
      He uses eval in safe ways, according to the developer. So I think your argument is mout unless you can point the unsafe uses. Now, the real question is: "why isn't Firefox developing a default Tree Style Tab?" I think at this point enough people are using it, and it has proven to be a better way to browse.
      - weaksauce 9y ago
        He may well be using it "safely" but it still is a string that is being evaluated so it has many inherent drawbacks. > Now, the real question is: "why isn't Firefox developing a default Tree Style Tab?" > > I think at this point enough people are using it, and it has proven to be a better way to browse. Not sure there are enough users to justify taking actual mozilla engineers off core problems that are everyone's problems. There is a maintenance burden and associated cost for every feature that mozilla adds to their core product. I think they would rather make the browser extension backend robust enough to allow for those types of extensions without sacrificing stability, performance, and security.

jwilk 9y ago

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/y-u-no-validate/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/y-u-no-valida...

ChickeNES 9y ago

Session Manager, which I've used since Firefox 2. To add insult to injury I downgraded to an earlier nightly and it no longer worked either, had to blow away the UI customization config and reinstall the addon for it to re-appear and work again.

CaptSpify 9y ago

vimperator https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimperator/ https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/vimperator/

yborg 9y ago

Here's 2: TileTabs Self-Destructing Cookies

jhasse 9y ago

TabCenter