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I still don't actually understand what "Instart Logic" is, can anyone explain it?

by math0ne 9y ago

milcron 9y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instart_Logic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instart_Logic
- greggman 9y ago
  That doesn't seem related to the topic unless I'm missing it. Also it has nothing to do with browsers or Chrome vs Firefox
  - milcron 9y ago
    It's referenced in the OP: Chromium-based browsers are being “infested” by Instart Logic tech which works around blockers and worst, around browser privacy settings (they may start “infecting” Firefox eventually, but that is not happening now). And there is a link to further elaboration: https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO-Extra-is-useful#instart-logic https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO...
    - deleted 9y ago
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    - gpvos 9y ago
      Okay, so they have cookies on a subdomain of the main site's domain. But that in itself is not a problem, since it does not enable them to track me across websites. So I don't have a problem with that, unless they use other tricks. Are they using browser profiling or something similar to correlate across websites?
  - philipkglass 9y ago
    http://go.instartlogic.com/AppShield-Ad-Integrity-Data-Sheet.html http://go.instartlogic.com/AppShield-Ad-Integrity-Data-Sheet... "Web publishers make simple DNS changes to flow the network domains that carry their HTML through the Instart Logic system. This allows our system to inject a small piece of JavaScript that can detect the presence of ad blockers. When an ad blocker is detected, the JavaScript-based virtualization layer Nanovisor, together with our intelligent cloud-based, machine learning platform, encrypts and delivers all the elements of the page using the customer’s existing delivery services. As a result, each resource on the page, and any signals and actions such as measurement beacons or user clicks, will have its URL encrypted and obscured. This renders ad blockers ineffective, as they can no longer search for patterns which would indicate a resource is related to advertising. The result is simply the experience that the web publisher intended on delivering to the end user with no changes to the ad delivery or measurement systems; end users have no need to be aware the technology is even being used."
    - marksomnian 9y ago
      Buzzword Bingo.
    - donkeyd 9y ago
      That's actually some pretty cool technology! I don't like what it's being used for, but I like that it exists.
    - patmcguire 9y ago
      This is basically how viruses get around antivirus. I think the virus/antivirus arms race has been more or less won by viruses, so it looks like this is the end state of the adblock wars.
    - math0ne 9y ago
      Ahh see, I didn't even know it was a company.

I still don't actually understand what "Instart Logic" is, can anyone explain it?

milcron 9y ago

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instart_Logic https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Instart_Logic

greggman 9y ago
That doesn't seem related to the topic unless I'm missing it. Also it has nothing to do with browsers or Chrome vs Firefox
- milcron 9y ago
  It's referenced in the OP: Chromium-based browsers are being “infested” by Instart Logic tech which works around blockers and worst, around browser privacy settings (they may start “infecting” Firefox eventually, but that is not happening now). And there is a link to further elaboration: https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO-Extra-is-useful#instart-logic https://github.com/gorhill/uBO-Extra/wiki/Sites-on-which-uBO...
  - deleted 9y ago
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  - gpvos 9y ago
    Okay, so they have cookies on a subdomain of the main site's domain. But that in itself is not a problem, since it does not enable them to track me across websites. So I don't have a problem with that, unless they use other tricks. Are they using browser profiling or something similar to correlate across websites?
- philipkglass 9y ago
  http://go.instartlogic.com/AppShield-Ad-Integrity-Data-Sheet.html http://go.instartlogic.com/AppShield-Ad-Integrity-Data-Sheet... "Web publishers make simple DNS changes to flow the network domains that carry their HTML through the Instart Logic system. This allows our system to inject a small piece of JavaScript that can detect the presence of ad blockers. When an ad blocker is detected, the JavaScript-based virtualization layer Nanovisor, together with our intelligent cloud-based, machine learning platform, encrypts and delivers all the elements of the page using the customer’s existing delivery services. As a result, each resource on the page, and any signals and actions such as measurement beacons or user clicks, will have its URL encrypted and obscured. This renders ad blockers ineffective, as they can no longer search for patterns which would indicate a resource is related to advertising. The result is simply the experience that the web publisher intended on delivering to the end user with no changes to the ad delivery or measurement systems; end users have no need to be aware the technology is even being used."
  - marksomnian 9y ago
    Buzzword Bingo.
  - donkeyd 9y ago
    That's actually some pretty cool technology! I don't like what it's being used for, but I like that it exists.
  - patmcguire 9y ago
    This is basically how viruses get around antivirus. I think the virus/antivirus arms race has been more or less won by viruses, so it looks like this is the end state of the adblock wars.
  - math0ne 9y ago
    Ahh see, I didn't even know it was a company.