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Why the rush? It's not like you're gonna be impotent at age 40 or something. The pressure to "do or die" in one year only is likely to jeopardize your effort...

by Rod 16y ago

Why the rush? It's not like you're gonna be impotent at age 40 or something. The pressure to "do or die" in one year only is likely to jeopardize your effort... unless you date single, childless 40 year old women. But what self-respecting man would do such a thing when there are so many younger, hotter women?

araneae 16y ago
carry my child If they're a woman, they're a lesbian. I'm pretty sure men can't bear children.
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- sqrt17 16y ago
  As common wisdom goes, children are created through an act by one male and one female human, and subsequently carry about 50% of each partner's core DNA and 100% of the female partner's mitochondrial DNA. As a result, neither egocentrical males nor lesbians can bear children by themselves, even though artificial insemination and foster mothers may make it easy to live in the illusion that it's a possibility. (Or were you implying that the backward model of gender roles that is expressed in "carry my child" would be sure to drive any sane woman away unless the OP is a lesbian woman, because lesbian women can get away with chauvinistic opinions without raising any red flags?) On the other hand, yes, his or her wife may be perfectly able to carry his or her existing child around if he or she is a single parent with a sore back.
  - hugh3 16y ago
    If an egg from Woman A gets fertilized and implanted into Woman B, then one lesbian can be carrying her lesbian partner's baby. It would be difficult to find one who would agree to this arrangement, though.
  - araneae 16y ago
    "[T]o bear" means "to give birth" in common parlance. So lesbians can certainly bear children by themselves, but men, the vast majority of which have no wombs, cannot. Citation: #3 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bear http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bear And while you may consider yourself witty, I feel I must point out that in the context in which I was using it, "to carry" a child refers to the state of being pregnant with it. Citation: #6 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carry http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carry Yet again, something the wombless may have trouble with.
    - sqrt17 16y ago
      Lesbians can certainly bear children by themselves, just as any woman could. By that point, it does not matter (for the biological notion of conception) if that woman is lesbian, heterosexual, asexual, or anything else. As opposed to that, the mindset of getting a partner for the sole purpose of having a family, while certainly more often found with those with non-womb reproductive organs, can probably be found with both males and females and in either case is sure to be appalling to the partner (or to other people at large). While I strongly agree with your basic point, I'm not sure I like the way you make that point. In my understanding, both the OP and yourself implicitly talk about the whole parenting affair and not just getting pregnant with a child, at which point the social faculty of being a good parent becomes more relevant compared to biological disposition.
eirene 16y ago
Says alot about HN that this reply hasn't been downvoted more.
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- Rod 16y ago
  If you want to hear pretty lies, go watch Sex and the City. It's well known that 40 year old women are almost infertile. And their pregnancies tend to be riskier. I didn't make the rules, so don't shoot the messenger. Show me a man starting a family with a 40 year old, and I will show you a man without options.
  - hugh3 16y ago
    pretty lies Well, somebody's been reading his Roissy.
  - anthonyb 16y ago
    Why would women date you at 40 when they could go for the "younger, hotter" model?
    - Rod 16y ago
      No one is talking about dating. We're talking about starting a family, which is an entirely different bag of cookies. Wake the f*ck up. Assuming that women and men are the same, have the same goals, and obey the same rules is an immensely stupid mistake to make, one that could be avoided by observing the real world social dynamics, and one that only clueless feminists such as yourself make.
      - anthonyb 16y ago
        Why so hostile? Assuming that all women and all men obey the same rules is also an immensely stupid mistake to make. Not all of us are micro-optimising assholes - some of us actually care about the people that we choose to start a family with.

by Rod 16y ago

araneae 16y ago

carry my child If they're a woman, they're a lesbian. I'm pretty sure men can't bear children.

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sqrt17 16y ago
As common wisdom goes, children are created through an act by one male and one female human, and subsequently carry about 50% of each partner's core DNA and 100% of the female partner's mitochondrial DNA. As a result, neither egocentrical males nor lesbians can bear children by themselves, even though artificial insemination and foster mothers may make it easy to live in the illusion that it's a possibility. (Or were you implying that the backward model of gender roles that is expressed in "carry my child" would be sure to drive any sane woman away unless the OP is a lesbian woman, because lesbian women can get away with chauvinistic opinions without raising any red flags?) On the other hand, yes, his or her wife may be perfectly able to carry his or her existing child around if he or she is a single parent with a sore back.
- hugh3 16y ago
  If an egg from Woman A gets fertilized and implanted into Woman B, then one lesbian can be carrying her lesbian partner's baby. It would be difficult to find one who would agree to this arrangement, though.
- araneae 16y ago
  "[T]o bear" means "to give birth" in common parlance. So lesbians can certainly bear children by themselves, but men, the vast majority of which have no wombs, cannot. Citation: #3 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bear http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/bear And while you may consider yourself witty, I feel I must point out that in the context in which I was using it, "to carry" a child refers to the state of being pregnant with it. Citation: #6 http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carry http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/carry Yet again, something the wombless may have trouble with.
  - sqrt17 16y ago
    Lesbians can certainly bear children by themselves, just as any woman could. By that point, it does not matter (for the biological notion of conception) if that woman is lesbian, heterosexual, asexual, or anything else. As opposed to that, the mindset of getting a partner for the sole purpose of having a family, while certainly more often found with those with non-womb reproductive organs, can probably be found with both males and females and in either case is sure to be appalling to the partner (or to other people at large). While I strongly agree with your basic point, I'm not sure I like the way you make that point. In my understanding, both the OP and yourself implicitly talk about the whole parenting affair and not just getting pregnant with a child, at which point the social faculty of being a good parent becomes more relevant compared to biological disposition.

eirene 16y ago

Says alot about HN that this reply hasn't been downvoted more.

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Rod 16y ago
If you want to hear pretty lies, go watch Sex and the City. It's well known that 40 year old women are almost infertile. And their pregnancies tend to be riskier. I didn't make the rules, so don't shoot the messenger. Show me a man starting a family with a 40 year old, and I will show you a man without options.
- hugh3 16y ago
  pretty lies Well, somebody's been reading his Roissy.
- anthonyb 16y ago
  Why would women date you at 40 when they could go for the "younger, hotter" model?
  - Rod 16y ago
    No one is talking about dating. We're talking about starting a family, which is an entirely different bag of cookies. Wake the f*ck up. Assuming that women and men are the same, have the same goals, and obey the same rules is an immensely stupid mistake to make, one that could be avoided by observing the real world social dynamics, and one that only clueless feminists such as yourself make.
    - anthonyb 16y ago
      Why so hostile? Assuming that all women and all men obey the same rules is also an immensely stupid mistake to make. Not all of us are micro-optimising assholes - some of us actually care about the people that we choose to start a family with.