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It should be a complete non-starter for one of the largest, and most important free software projects to be hosted on a centralized, proprietary service like Gi

It should be a complete non-starter for one of the largest, and most important free software projects to be hosted on a centralized, proprietary service like Github. I can't even consider it as a serious suggestion.

mi100hael 9y ago
I always think this sums it up well: > Current state makes it very hard to mange/search/fork/open-issues etc > especially for newcomers, > please move the project to github so we can have nice disussions > forks/prs etc goodness. No. Never. Github is proprietary communications tool which requires users to accept a terms of service and login. That gives power and influence to a single entity (and a for-profit organization at that). Contributing to unicorn is *socially* as easy as contributing to git or the Linux kernel. There is no need to signup for anything, no need to ever touch a bloated web browser. The reason I contribute to Free Software is because I am against any sort of lock-in or proprietary features. It absolutely sickens me to encounter users who seem to be incapable of using git without a proprietary communications tool. https://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/20140801213202.GA2729@dcvr.yhbt.net/ https://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/20140801213202.GA2729@dc...
- dajt 9y ago
  Linus seems to have a different take on OSS than most OSS warriors. I don't think he sees proprietary software as 'evil' or OSS as morally superior. I get the impression he just thinks OSS will be better in quality. Depending on the contributors, which is why he doesn't want or need endless numbers of average devs contributing to his baby. I think his point about Tridgell's actions with BK reverse engineering were right, and El Reg was playing the OSS warrior card. It looks to me like Tridgell was trying to create a way to steal BK metadata - BK specifically required you to have a license to get that data. OSS warriors annoy me as much as SJWs do, and seem just as narrow minded.

mi100hael 9y ago

I always think this sums it up well: > Current state makes it very hard to mange/search/fork/open-issues etc > especially for newcomers, > please move the project to github so we can have nice disussions > forks/prs etc goodness. No. Never. Github is proprietary communications tool which requires users to accept a terms of service and login. That gives power and influence to a single entity (and a for-profit organization at that). Contributing to unicorn is *socially* as easy as contributing to git or the Linux kernel. There is no need to signup for anything, no need to ever touch a bloated web browser. The reason I contribute to Free Software is because I am against any sort of lock-in or proprietary features. It absolutely sickens me to encounter users who seem to be incapable of using git without a proprietary communications tool. https://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/20140801213202.GA2729@dcvr.yhbt.net/ https://bogomips.org/unicorn-public/20140801213202.GA2729@dc...

dajt 9y ago
Linus seems to have a different take on OSS than most OSS warriors. I don't think he sees proprietary software as 'evil' or OSS as morally superior. I get the impression he just thinks OSS will be better in quality. Depending on the contributors, which is why he doesn't want or need endless numbers of average devs contributing to his baby. I think his point about Tridgell's actions with BK reverse engineering were right, and El Reg was playing the OSS warrior card. It looks to me like Tridgell was trying to create a way to steal BK metadata - BK specifically required you to have a license to get that data. OSS warriors annoy me as much as SJWs do, and seem just as narrow minded.