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I guess the piratebay is getting a taste of their own medicine. A third-party is sharing their data without their consent. Boo Hoo. I remember hearing a speec

by rick888 16y ago

I guess the piratebay is getting a taste of their own medicine. A third-party is sharing their data without their consent. Boo Hoo. I remember hearing a speech a couple of weeks ago from one of the guys that runs the Piratebay. He talked about how he remembered when he was a little kid and he was taught to share. He believed that everything online should be given out for free for the goodness of mankind. I hope this guy shares all of the usernames/email addresses and password hashes as a torrent. After all, it's just data. Data is only 1s and 0s (and can't be stolen).

chc 16y ago
There is a very big difference between "We should share generously" and "All data should be public." The Pirate Bay doesn't advocate leaking credit card numbers or anything.
- rick888 16y ago
  "There is a very big difference between "We should share generously" and "All data should be public." If they were advocating the sharing of their own property, that's one thing. However, they advocate (and facilitate), the sharing of other people's intellectual property without their consent. I have heard many reasons as to why this should be okay. "Data can't be stolen, only copied", "Information needs to be free", etc. So, going by their own rules, this is fine because email, password hashes, and usernames are just data. Information that can be freely copied and distributed without any harm to the original owner (they still have a copy of it. It's not like it's stealing). "The Pirate Bay doesn't advocate leaking credit card numbers or anything" No, but if I had their credit cards on an open forum, I wouldn't expect them to take legal action (unless of course they are hypocrites). Credit card numbers, like torrents, are just 1s and 0s that could be used for harm (IE: downloading illegal information). I find the people from the piratebay very hypocritical. They have this new service coming out that allows you to give donations (I can't remember the name.but I saw a video on it). They charge a 10% service fee, which is enormous compared to many alternative services out there right now. Why not charge $0? Yes, it may cost money to run such a service, but it also costs money to create many of the software applications, games, and movies that they seem to have no problem "sharing" (yes, I know they don't actually host the file..only torrents..but they host readme files on almost every torrent which explain exactly what the file is. They also run many of the trackers out there.).
  - chc 16y ago
    This is not copyright violation. This is the sharing of sensitive user data. You may find both abhorrent, but they are not at all the same thing. You're making a straw man argument with all this "sharing data" nonsense, essentially trying to paint The Pirate Bay as supporting any illegal use of a computer just because they support one illegal use. TLDR: If The Pirate Bay were getting upset over having their intellectual property shared freely, that would be hypocrisy. But they're not. They're trying to stop people from hacking their site.

by rick888 16y ago

chc 16y ago

There is a very big difference between "We should share generously" and "All data should be public." The Pirate Bay doesn't advocate leaking credit card numbers or anything.

rick888 16y ago
"There is a very big difference between "We should share generously" and "All data should be public." If they were advocating the sharing of their own property, that's one thing. However, they advocate (and facilitate), the sharing of other people's intellectual property without their consent. I have heard many reasons as to why this should be okay. "Data can't be stolen, only copied", "Information needs to be free", etc. So, going by their own rules, this is fine because email, password hashes, and usernames are just data. Information that can be freely copied and distributed without any harm to the original owner (they still have a copy of it. It's not like it's stealing). "The Pirate Bay doesn't advocate leaking credit card numbers or anything" No, but if I had their credit cards on an open forum, I wouldn't expect them to take legal action (unless of course they are hypocrites). Credit card numbers, like torrents, are just 1s and 0s that could be used for harm (IE: downloading illegal information). I find the people from the piratebay very hypocritical. They have this new service coming out that allows you to give donations (I can't remember the name.but I saw a video on it). They charge a 10% service fee, which is enormous compared to many alternative services out there right now. Why not charge $0? Yes, it may cost money to run such a service, but it also costs money to create many of the software applications, games, and movies that they seem to have no problem "sharing" (yes, I know they don't actually host the file..only torrents..but they host readme files on almost every torrent which explain exactly what the file is. They also run many of the trackers out there.).
- chc 16y ago
  This is not copyright violation. This is the sharing of sensitive user data. You may find both abhorrent, but they are not at all the same thing. You're making a straw man argument with all this "sharing data" nonsense, essentially trying to paint The Pirate Bay as supporting any illegal use of a computer just because they support one illegal use. TLDR: If The Pirate Bay were getting upset over having their intellectual property shared freely, that would be hypocrisy. But they're not. They're trying to stop people from hacking their site.