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This is all a bunch of nonsense. First off, we couldn't even manage to pass gay marriage because of the large number of conservatives who vote, but who we don'

by keefe 16y ago

This is all a bunch of nonsense. First off, we couldn't even manage to pass gay marriage because of the large number of conservatives who vote, but who we don't hear about. $38 for an ounce? Even optimizing everything with NO taxes, this would be incredibly difficult. Not that I have researched the matter...

parfe 16y ago
Growing it at home is practically free. Like home-brewing beer people will grow for fun. More entertaining than a tomato garden.
- jonknee 16y ago
  ... And much like home-brewing it won't destroy the market for commercial sale (Inbev does OK).
- keefe 16y ago
  except for all the electricity, fertilizer, equipment, water? You ever look up the type of lights you need and how much power they draw? how quickly various bits of the setup degrade? but yes people will grow a plant or two for fun...
  - parfe 16y ago
    Having never looked into it before http://www.specialty-lights.com/plantgrow-questions.html#functioning http://www.specialty-lights.com/plantgrow-questions.html#fun... $250 for a 400W grow light with a 5 year warranty $20/mo for the electric for the lights $16 to fill a 5,000 gallon pool. No idea how much water the plants would need, but I assume less than that but lets say that is a monthly cost. $14 for a 40lb bag of fertilizer Never had to purchase drugs, but lets say the seeds of the strain you want cost $250. $500 startup cost and $50/mo for running costs. 5 producing plants and 5 seeding plants Over the course of a year you spend $600. The net claims 17.5oz average yield per plant. Unless I made a gross error $30/oz is completely reasonable.
    - gexla 16y ago
      In some places all you have to do is throw a seed in the ground and attend to it no different than all your other plants. Plenty of seeds in your $30/oz bag you buy from someone else. ;)
    - keefe 16y ago
      one 400W bulb isn't sufficient, as far as I know (I have also never grown, but have known people that have) From what I hear, one bulb MAY get you ONE plant harvest (2-3 ounces) every 3 months, IF you do it all right. My understanding was you need 3-4 lights. There's no way you're growing 5 plants from 1 400 watt bulb. >$20/mo for the electric for the lights this doesn't seem right, let's do 500 watts for simplicity (watering system etc needs more power) So, 0.5 kwh 18 hours a day, so 270 kwh per month so you're starting at like... $40-$70/light. so maybe $400 + $70/mo per plant, 3-4 harvests a year depending on how often you fuck up, that's like 300-400 a plant or about 100-150 an ounce, same as know-a-guy prices outside of cali................... >Never had to purchase drugs, but lets say the seeds of the strain you want cost $250. They're way cheaper than that, but you also need mylar lining, watering system, etc. forget about the warranty, you can't send them weed encrusted stuff and expect to get it back.
      - parfe 16y ago
        > So, 0.5 kwh 18 hours a day, so 270 kwh per month so you're starting at like... $40-$70/light. Electricity is 10 cents/kwh in my area which comes out to $27/mo (I used a 400W light in my original post @ $20/mo) unless I'm calculating it wrong? But I just realized we're talking about CA here and their electric bill calculations seem to be all sorts of messed up, so I give up. >forget about the warranty, you can't send them weed encrusted stuff and expect to get it back. If it was legal I don't see why warranties would be a problem. In fact, the light retailers would be able to start marketing explicitly to that market rather than side stepping the topic.
        keefe 16y ago
        ahhh yeah I live in CA where it's insanely high and has that crazy sliding scale, I figured it as 0.15-0.27 from some website. Unless the company was in CA and it was totally legal, the equipment becomes paraphernalia and they won't do shit with it... and of course if they can screw you there they will. anyway whatever it's a moot point, law will never pass
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by keefe 16y ago

parfe 16y ago

Growing it at home is practically free. Like home-brewing beer people will grow for fun. More entertaining than a tomato garden.

jonknee 16y ago
... And much like home-brewing it won't destroy the market for commercial sale (Inbev does OK).
keefe 16y ago
except for all the electricity, fertilizer, equipment, water? You ever look up the type of lights you need and how much power they draw? how quickly various bits of the setup degrade? but yes people will grow a plant or two for fun...
- parfe 16y ago
  Having never looked into it before http://www.specialty-lights.com/plantgrow-questions.html#functioning http://www.specialty-lights.com/plantgrow-questions.html#fun... $250 for a 400W grow light with a 5 year warranty $20/mo for the electric for the lights $16 to fill a 5,000 gallon pool. No idea how much water the plants would need, but I assume less than that but lets say that is a monthly cost. $14 for a 40lb bag of fertilizer Never had to purchase drugs, but lets say the seeds of the strain you want cost $250. $500 startup cost and $50/mo for running costs. 5 producing plants and 5 seeding plants Over the course of a year you spend $600. The net claims 17.5oz average yield per plant. Unless I made a gross error $30/oz is completely reasonable.
  - gexla 16y ago
    In some places all you have to do is throw a seed in the ground and attend to it no different than all your other plants. Plenty of seeds in your $30/oz bag you buy from someone else. ;)
  - keefe 16y ago
    one 400W bulb isn't sufficient, as far as I know (I have also never grown, but have known people that have) From what I hear, one bulb MAY get you ONE plant harvest (2-3 ounces) every 3 months, IF you do it all right. My understanding was you need 3-4 lights. There's no way you're growing 5 plants from 1 400 watt bulb. >$20/mo for the electric for the lights this doesn't seem right, let's do 500 watts for simplicity (watering system etc needs more power) So, 0.5 kwh 18 hours a day, so 270 kwh per month so you're starting at like... $40-$70/light. so maybe $400 + $70/mo per plant, 3-4 harvests a year depending on how often you fuck up, that's like 300-400 a plant or about 100-150 an ounce, same as know-a-guy prices outside of cali................... >Never had to purchase drugs, but lets say the seeds of the strain you want cost $250. They're way cheaper than that, but you also need mylar lining, watering system, etc. forget about the warranty, you can't send them weed encrusted stuff and expect to get it back.
    - parfe 16y ago
      > So, 0.5 kwh 18 hours a day, so 270 kwh per month so you're starting at like... $40-$70/light. Electricity is 10 cents/kwh in my area which comes out to $27/mo (I used a 400W light in my original post @ $20/mo) unless I'm calculating it wrong? But I just realized we're talking about CA here and their electric bill calculations seem to be all sorts of messed up, so I give up. >forget about the warranty, you can't send them weed encrusted stuff and expect to get it back. If it was legal I don't see why warranties would be a problem. In fact, the light retailers would be able to start marketing explicitly to that market rather than side stepping the topic.
      - keefe 16y ago
        ahhh yeah I live in CA where it's insanely high and has that crazy sliding scale, I figured it as 0.15-0.27 from some website. Unless the company was in CA and it was totally legal, the equipment becomes paraphernalia and they won't do shit with it... and of course if they can screw you there they will. anyway whatever it's a moot point, law will never pass
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