The topic at hand is probably the worse you could start with if you want "rational discourse". Because to a large degree it's about values much more than facts.

The topic at hand is probably the worse you could start with if you want "rational discourse". Because to a large degree it's about values much more than facts. Yes, this so-called manifesto names some facts, but the opposition isn't to those facts, but to the way they're used. And let's not pretend like the split between left and right in the US is somehow the shared responsibility of both sides. It's no coincidence that both the "reality-based community" as well as "alternative facts" are terms coined by the right. There are literally dozens of lists on the web of actual, proven, indisputable lies of the current President. From crowd sizes to "even the liberal media calls it the greatest speech ever held on foreign soil". To insist that both sides are the same, and that therefore the best course of action is somehow in the middle, is ridiculous.