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In my experience, FPS enthusiasts do tend to manifest some pretty bad traits that are less common among other types of gamers. Interesting. Especially stuff re

In my experience, FPS enthusiasts do tend to manifest some pretty bad traits that are less common among other types of gamers. Interesting. Especially stuff related to "race realism" and various forms of sexism.

thrownblown 9y ago
When the PUBG lobby gets to racist for my liking, my favorite thing to do is play the NPR Politics Podcast on the All Chat channel, or VOX Weeds. Its like kryptonite to the shit spewing gamer bros.
- Juz16 9y ago
  I'm surprised people don't just mute you for making so much noise in voice chat. That's what I do whenever someone plays music or other irrelevant stuff on their mic.
Fifer82 9y ago
I will never forget being verbally abused for the first time on xmas day 1996 Doom Deathmatch. Funny stuff, about 2 minutes of insults and death threats. The sad thing is nowadays this is bullying, sexist, racist, trolling and so on. It just made me laugh. I think the trash talk was always in this community.
- drngdds 9y ago
  >I think the trash talk was always in this community. This seems true, considering John Gabriel formulated his Greater Internet F*ckwad Theory[0] way back in 2004. But it's not a good thing. Some people just want to play video games without being subjected to racist, sexist, and ableist harassment. [0] https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
- abootstrapper 9y ago
  It was bullying, sexist, racist, trolling back then too.
  - Fifer82 9y ago
    I disagree. I am pretty sure that the guys saying they wanted me to die didn't actually want me to die. It was just a way to taunt. It is absolutely ridiculous that someone who has never seen me, met me, know where I live, any of my history, my sexuality, my family can possibly achieve any of emotion that could ever be taken seriously enough to be considered bullying. It is stretching the term almost far enough to be meaningless.
icebraining 9y ago
The whole matchmaking concept made that much worse. In the server model one can find a well moderated server that kicked those idiots out.
thrillgore 9y ago
It may just be me, but I've never had any issue with profane public lobbies playing either Destiny or Overwatch. I don't even need to mute it, typically there's little or any chatter. If I have a party on PS4 or am on my usual Mumble lounge its typically by the book raid planning. I've seen videos of really inappropriate and childish banter on other games so I know how bad it can get.
knowaveragejoe 9y ago
IMO, those types of games tend to attract more of those types of people. Your comment reads as though it encourages those traits to manifest themselves in people. I play a lot of FPS and know what you're talking about, but I don't see how the games themselves are encouraging that so much as attracting people already pre-disposed to those beliefs.
DKnoll 9y ago
That's not in any way related to the article and also prejudicial without evidence, just like the two 'isms' you mentioned. Interesting.
Dirlewanger 9y ago
Shitty anecdote to counteract your own shitty anecdote: the most corrosive community I've ever encountered were those of MOBAs. Smite, League of Legends, DOTA 2, I've never seen such rage before in any FPSs.
- setr 9y ago
  It really makes sense; moba's require a much greater dependence on your allies' ability than most FPS games do, so they're naturally much more sensitive to it. The key thing that drives it is that 1. One, or multiple, bad teamates make the match not at all fun (because the game snowbals heavily) 2. It wastes an 30-60 min of your time on a match predetermined to lose 3. The games are primarily played with randoms, and the matchmaking system has never been any good (starting from the original kick anyone who has to dl the game in wc3) 4. Player age ranges drastically, and younger players tend to be both worse and prone to raging (often fueled by their own misplays) And you always get people who are relentlessly trying to avoid any kind of contention, which is more irritating than anything else. FPS games really only feature points 3 & 4, as they're predominantly solo experiences (except by taunting the enemy). But, imo, these things are both natural to the way games are designed, and really are not as bad as made out to be. Its an inherent piece of the games, and anyone going in with antithetical ideals is simply trying to play a different game (which is what the LoL anti-toxic developers pull, consistently misunderstanding the game in terms of its community, design and balance, as they try to rip apart the game to meet their ideals).

thrownblown 9y ago

When the PUBG lobby gets to racist for my liking, my favorite thing to do is play the NPR Politics Podcast on the All Chat channel, or VOX Weeds. Its like kryptonite to the shit spewing gamer bros.

Juz16 9y ago
I'm surprised people don't just mute you for making so much noise in voice chat. That's what I do whenever someone plays music or other irrelevant stuff on their mic.

Fifer82 9y ago

I will never forget being verbally abused for the first time on xmas day 1996 Doom Deathmatch. Funny stuff, about 2 minutes of insults and death threats. The sad thing is nowadays this is bullying, sexist, racist, trolling and so on. It just made me laugh. I think the trash talk was always in this community.

drngdds 9y ago
>I think the trash talk was always in this community. This seems true, considering John Gabriel formulated his Greater Internet F*ckwad Theory[0] way back in 2004. But it's not a good thing. Some people just want to play video games without being subjected to racist, sexist, and ableist harassment. [0] https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19 https://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2004/03/19
abootstrapper 9y ago
It was bullying, sexist, racist, trolling back then too.
- Fifer82 9y ago
  I disagree. I am pretty sure that the guys saying they wanted me to die didn't actually want me to die. It was just a way to taunt. It is absolutely ridiculous that someone who has never seen me, met me, know where I live, any of my history, my sexuality, my family can possibly achieve any of emotion that could ever be taken seriously enough to be considered bullying. It is stretching the term almost far enough to be meaningless.

icebraining 9y ago

The whole matchmaking concept made that much worse. In the server model one can find a well moderated server that kicked those idiots out.

thrillgore 9y ago

It may just be me, but I've never had any issue with profane public lobbies playing either Destiny or Overwatch. I don't even need to mute it, typically there's little or any chatter. If I have a party on PS4 or am on my usual Mumble lounge its typically by the book raid planning. I've seen videos of really inappropriate and childish banter on other games so I know how bad it can get.

knowaveragejoe 9y ago

IMO, those types of games tend to attract more of those types of people. Your comment reads as though it encourages those traits to manifest themselves in people. I play a lot of FPS and know what you're talking about, but I don't see how the games themselves are encouraging that so much as attracting people already pre-disposed to those beliefs.

DKnoll 9y ago

That's not in any way related to the article and also prejudicial without evidence, just like the two 'isms' you mentioned. Interesting.

Dirlewanger 9y ago

Shitty anecdote to counteract your own shitty anecdote: the most corrosive community I've ever encountered were those of MOBAs. Smite, League of Legends, DOTA 2, I've never seen such rage before in any FPSs.

setr 9y ago
It really makes sense; moba's require a much greater dependence on your allies' ability than most FPS games do, so they're naturally much more sensitive to it. The key thing that drives it is that 1. One, or multiple, bad teamates make the match not at all fun (because the game snowbals heavily) 2. It wastes an 30-60 min of your time on a match predetermined to lose 3. The games are primarily played with randoms, and the matchmaking system has never been any good (starting from the original kick anyone who has to dl the game in wc3) 4. Player age ranges drastically, and younger players tend to be both worse and prone to raging (often fueled by their own misplays) And you always get people who are relentlessly trying to avoid any kind of contention, which is more irritating than anything else. FPS games really only feature points 3 & 4, as they're predominantly solo experiences (except by taunting the enemy). But, imo, these things are both natural to the way games are designed, and really are not as bad as made out to be. Its an inherent piece of the games, and anyone going in with antithetical ideals is simply trying to play a different game (which is what the LoL anti-toxic developers pull, consistently misunderstanding the game in terms of its community, design and balance, as they try to rip apart the game to meet their ideals).