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No candidate since Nixon ran on an explicitly white victimhood platform and that is why people are being treated like this. Trump is a liar but also emotionall

by DiNovi 9y ago

No candidate since Nixon ran on an explicitly white victimhood platform and that is why people are being treated like this. Trump is a liar but also emotionally honest; people knew what they were voting for when they "held their noses" and that's no excuse

at-fates-hands 9y ago
Most of my friends who voted for Trump did so for one reason. They were sick of Republicans getting battered by the media and their opponents. Every time the Republicans put up a "nice guy" the media skewered them along with their Democratic opponent. Think Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney. All decent guys, completely dismantled by their opponents and the media and turned into evil men during their campaigns. My friends voted for Trump because he was a straight up brawler. The guy didn't back down, he didn't apologize, and was a flame thrower. Clinton tried and tried to go after him and everything fell flat. He went after her, labeled her "crooked Hilary" which his base ate up. He talked about her husband being a rapist and how she allowed it and they went nuts about that. Nothing was off the table and it kept her completely off balance, she had no comebacks for most of his attacks. The media went after him and what happened? He punched back - repeatedly and they were unprepared for him. Called him a joke, derided him, tried to bring him down. He just kept coming back and countered with something they weren't reporting on, or the polls being way off, or any other number of issues. The media were so unprepared to deal with him, even more so now that he's been elected. In one election, he completely dismantled the MSM and convinced half the country they couldn't be trusted. How many times a day do you hear the term "fake news" now? Trump started that. Now the media can't get away from it and now it's a part of our political lexicon. CNN is no longer a reputable news organization because Trump called them out repeatedly, their reputation is in tatters because of him. The Republican base ate him up and loved the fact they finally had a candidate who played in the mud and never tried to be the "nice guy" and fought the media and Democrats with everything he had. It's not that they knew what they were getting, it was more about pushing back the Liberal ideology, and feeling like they had someone who would fight for them.
- cafard 9y ago
  Those I know who voted from Trump did so because they objected to Clinton politically. They did not in the least like Trump. I don't remember anyone speaking of Dole, McCain, or Romney as evil. Frankly, Donald Trump has said crappier things about McCain than anyone on the Democratic side ever did. Romney did get slammed on his statement that some percentage of the population was freeloading. CNN is as reputable a news organization as it ever was. It may well be in worse odor with the Republican base because of Trump's statements, but I don't think it was ever that popular with them. And let's face it, Fox News has a 25-year investment in depicting Hillary Clinton as bad. If we're going to talk about CNN saying bad stuff about Dole, we should probably go back and think of all the folks who pushed the notion that Hillary Clinton arranged the death of Vincent Foster.
  - theWatcher37 9y ago
    VP Biden said Romney would put the black community back in chains. Romeney had the intimidation factor of a house plant.
  - at-fates-hands 9y ago
    >> Those I know who voted from Trump did so because they objected to Clinton politically. They did not in the least like Trump. this statement makes virtually no sense to me. They didn't like Clinton's politics, but instead of voting for Bernie or a third party candidate, they voted for someone they didn't like? That kind of logic completely escapes me. >> CNN is as reputable a news organization as it ever was. I'm not sure how they can be. It's one thing to have a political slant to your reporting. It's quite another to tow Democratic party lines, publish fake or purposefully misleading stories to hurt Trump, and 90% of the stories you run about him are negative. That's not journalistic integrity, it's a running tirade about him and his administration. How much does CNN hate Trump? 93% of coverage is negative http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/23/how-much-does-cnn-hate-trump-93-of-coverage-is-neg/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/23/how-much-doe... You can say Fox News reporting has a conservative slant and I won't argue that fact. Even their reporting on Trump during and now after the election has had an air of pessimism about it. They ran very few, if any positive stories about him during the campaign, and many of their more moderate commentators still hedge their support of him and his policies. >> Hillary Clinton arranged the death of Vincent Foster. I've followed the Clinton's since the 90's and have heard various conspiracy theories about them, but this is the first time I've heard someone talk about Hilary arranging Vince Foster's death.

by DiNovi 9y ago

at-fates-hands 9y ago

Most of my friends who voted for Trump did so for one reason. They were sick of Republicans getting battered by the media and their opponents. Every time the Republicans put up a "nice guy" the media skewered them along with their Democratic opponent. Think Bob Dole, John McCain, Mitt Romney. All decent guys, completely dismantled by their opponents and the media and turned into evil men during their campaigns. My friends voted for Trump because he was a straight up brawler. The guy didn't back down, he didn't apologize, and was a flame thrower. Clinton tried and tried to go after him and everything fell flat. He went after her, labeled her "crooked Hilary" which his base ate up. He talked about her husband being a rapist and how she allowed it and they went nuts about that. Nothing was off the table and it kept her completely off balance, she had no comebacks for most of his attacks. The media went after him and what happened? He punched back - repeatedly and they were unprepared for him. Called him a joke, derided him, tried to bring him down. He just kept coming back and countered with something they weren't reporting on, or the polls being way off, or any other number of issues. The media were so unprepared to deal with him, even more so now that he's been elected. In one election, he completely dismantled the MSM and convinced half the country they couldn't be trusted. How many times a day do you hear the term "fake news" now? Trump started that. Now the media can't get away from it and now it's a part of our political lexicon. CNN is no longer a reputable news organization because Trump called them out repeatedly, their reputation is in tatters because of him. The Republican base ate him up and loved the fact they finally had a candidate who played in the mud and never tried to be the "nice guy" and fought the media and Democrats with everything he had. It's not that they knew what they were getting, it was more about pushing back the Liberal ideology, and feeling like they had someone who would fight for them.

cafard 9y ago
Those I know who voted from Trump did so because they objected to Clinton politically. They did not in the least like Trump. I don't remember anyone speaking of Dole, McCain, or Romney as evil. Frankly, Donald Trump has said crappier things about McCain than anyone on the Democratic side ever did. Romney did get slammed on his statement that some percentage of the population was freeloading. CNN is as reputable a news organization as it ever was. It may well be in worse odor with the Republican base because of Trump's statements, but I don't think it was ever that popular with them. And let's face it, Fox News has a 25-year investment in depicting Hillary Clinton as bad. If we're going to talk about CNN saying bad stuff about Dole, we should probably go back and think of all the folks who pushed the notion that Hillary Clinton arranged the death of Vincent Foster.
- theWatcher37 9y ago
  VP Biden said Romney would put the black community back in chains. Romeney had the intimidation factor of a house plant.
- at-fates-hands 9y ago
  >> Those I know who voted from Trump did so because they objected to Clinton politically. They did not in the least like Trump. this statement makes virtually no sense to me. They didn't like Clinton's politics, but instead of voting for Bernie or a third party candidate, they voted for someone they didn't like? That kind of logic completely escapes me. >> CNN is as reputable a news organization as it ever was. I'm not sure how they can be. It's one thing to have a political slant to your reporting. It's quite another to tow Democratic party lines, publish fake or purposefully misleading stories to hurt Trump, and 90% of the stories you run about him are negative. That's not journalistic integrity, it's a running tirade about him and his administration. How much does CNN hate Trump? 93% of coverage is negative http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/23/how-much-does-cnn-hate-trump-93-of-coverage-is-neg/ http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2017/may/23/how-much-doe... You can say Fox News reporting has a conservative slant and I won't argue that fact. Even their reporting on Trump during and now after the election has had an air of pessimism about it. They ran very few, if any positive stories about him during the campaign, and many of their more moderate commentators still hedge their support of him and his policies. >> Hillary Clinton arranged the death of Vincent Foster. I've followed the Clinton's since the 90's and have heard various conspiracy theories about them, but this is the first time I've heard someone talk about Hilary arranging Vince Foster's death.