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Clinton was pretty terrifying in a different way. A big part of her campaign strategy was to generalize from a few actual white supremacists and paint everyone

Clinton was pretty terrifying in a different way. A big part of her campaign strategy was to generalize from a few actual white supremacists and paint everyone who opposed her as a deplorable sexist Nazi white-supremacist who couldn't stand the idea of a woman President. That kind of McCarthyism is always a threat, but it was doubly dangerous in the current environment, with leftist groups declaring that violence was justified against anyone they thought fit that description.

and0 9y ago
The "basket of deplorables" remark was accurate as hell and hilarious, but you're wildly exaggerating anything she actually claimed. Sounds like you're still stuck in an echo chamber where people blew her beliefs out of proportion, probably most of it being attributed to her most extreme followers. Trump, meanwhile, actually hired open white nationalists and people with Nazi ties. Cool! The existential threat from Clinton was definitely the same because she.. opposed exactly that.
- leereeves 9y ago
  I'm not just talking about that one remark. > “I suppose it’s fair to say: don’t you someday want to see a woman president?” Hillary repeatedly pressed the "I'm a woman" button, and the "Trump supporters are white supremacists" button. Then she generalized to insult all Trump supporters with remarks like the one you mentioned. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-fr... https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/theres-a-reason-why-white-supremacists-like-donald-trump/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/theres-a-reason-why-whit... My opinions here aren't based on "an echo chamber" but on her own words and her own site.
  - and0 9y ago
    Oh dear, she claimed white supremacists liked Donald Trump. That's some serious egg on her face, seeing as he hasn't filled his cabinet and White House with white supremacists and people with Nazi since being elected, which I literally mentioned in the comment you replied to. Serious bungle on her part.
    - leereeves 9y ago
      He's filled his cabinet with Nazis? For example?
- marcoperaza 9y ago
  >Trump, meanwhile, actually hired open white nationalists and people with Nazi ties. That's just not true, unless you use a twisted definition of "white nationalist" that means "anyone who has ever said anything acknowledging that white people are a group with interests".
  - and0 9y ago
    Bannon is a literal white nationalist. Gorka has an actual Nazi background. These are literal undeniable truths. Please do your research and don't try to be coy.
    - marcoperaza 9y ago
      Please present your case if you are so sure. I want hard facts, not just famous people repeating the assertion.
    - leereeves 9y ago
      Instead of claiming that your opinion is a "literal undeniable truth" and telling people to "do your research" perhaps you could make an actual argument with evidence.
  - kthejoker2 9y ago
    In a conversation that actually makes Trump sound reasonable, he tells Bannon that he’s concerned about foreign Ivy League students, highly skilled and otherwise capable of working for or starting their own tech companies, graduating and then returning to their home countries. “When someone is going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, all the greats” and then graduate, “we throw them out of the country, and they can’t get back in,” he said. “We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country.” To which Bannon replied: “Um.” Trump tried to get Bannon to agree with him, but to no avail. Instead, Bannon suggested there were already too many Asian tech C.E.O.s. in Silicon Valley. “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the C.E.O.s in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, trailing off. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/steve-bannon-racist-comments-silicon-valley-inaccurate https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/steve-bannon-racist-...
jansho 9y ago
Compared to Trump's rhetoric during the campaign, "basket of deplorables" is about as mild as it can get...
- leereeves 9y ago
  She didn't stop there... > racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic > ... irredeemable

and0 9y ago

The "basket of deplorables" remark was accurate as hell and hilarious, but you're wildly exaggerating anything she actually claimed. Sounds like you're still stuck in an echo chamber where people blew her beliefs out of proportion, probably most of it being attributed to her most extreme followers. Trump, meanwhile, actually hired open white nationalists and people with Nazi ties. Cool! The existential threat from Clinton was definitely the same because she.. opposed exactly that.

leereeves 9y ago
I'm not just talking about that one remark. > “I suppose it’s fair to say: don’t you someday want to see a woman president?” Hillary repeatedly pressed the "I'm a woman" button, and the "Trump supporters are white supremacists" button. Then she generalized to insult all Trump supporters with remarks like the one you mentioned. https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-frog-and-white-supremacists-an-explainer/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/donald-trump-pepe-the-fr... https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/theres-a-reason-why-white-supremacists-like-donald-trump/ https://www.hillaryclinton.com/feed/theres-a-reason-why-whit... My opinions here aren't based on "an echo chamber" but on her own words and her own site.
- and0 9y ago
  Oh dear, she claimed white supremacists liked Donald Trump. That's some serious egg on her face, seeing as he hasn't filled his cabinet and White House with white supremacists and people with Nazi since being elected, which I literally mentioned in the comment you replied to. Serious bungle on her part.
  - leereeves 9y ago
    He's filled his cabinet with Nazis? For example?
marcoperaza 9y ago
>Trump, meanwhile, actually hired open white nationalists and people with Nazi ties. That's just not true, unless you use a twisted definition of "white nationalist" that means "anyone who has ever said anything acknowledging that white people are a group with interests".
- and0 9y ago
  Bannon is a literal white nationalist. Gorka has an actual Nazi background. These are literal undeniable truths. Please do your research and don't try to be coy.
  - marcoperaza 9y ago
    Please present your case if you are so sure. I want hard facts, not just famous people repeating the assertion.
  - leereeves 9y ago
    Instead of claiming that your opinion is a "literal undeniable truth" and telling people to "do your research" perhaps you could make an actual argument with evidence.
- kthejoker2 9y ago
  In a conversation that actually makes Trump sound reasonable, he tells Bannon that he’s concerned about foreign Ivy League students, highly skilled and otherwise capable of working for or starting their own tech companies, graduating and then returning to their home countries. “When someone is going to Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Penn, Stanford, all the greats” and then graduate, “we throw them out of the country, and they can’t get back in,” he said. “We have to be careful of that, Steve. You know, we have to keep our talented people in this country.” To which Bannon replied: “Um.” Trump tried to get Bannon to agree with him, but to no avail. Instead, Bannon suggested there were already too many Asian tech C.E.O.s. in Silicon Valley. “When two-thirds or three-quarters of the C.E.O.s in Silicon Valley are from South Asia or from Asia, I think . . . ” Bannon said, trailing off. “A country is more than an economy. We’re a civic society.” https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/steve-bannon-racist-comments-silicon-valley-inaccurate https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2016/11/steve-bannon-racist-...

jansho 9y ago

Compared to Trump's rhetoric during the campaign, "basket of deplorables" is about as mild as it can get...

leereeves 9y ago
She didn't stop there... > racist, sexist, homophobic, xenophobic, Islamaphobic > ... irredeemable