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Welcome to the left. Where we are democratic, and suport free-speech, as long as agrees with our views. :)
by major505 9y ago
Welcome to the left. Where we are democratic, and suport free-speech, as long as agrees with our views. :)
- riffraff 9y agodoes the right differ? Is it non-democratic, against free speech, or happily accepts contrarian views? I doubt being close minded is specific to any political group.
- malnourish 9y agoWelcome to the internet. Where we make generalizations about large swaths of people. This could keep up until the end of time. I'm an incredibly liberal person in most regards but I find suppressing unwanted speech to be disgusting at a base level. I think it's unfair to make that generalization; further, it contributes to the false dichotomy that exists through "left/right" politic.
- yAnonymous 9y agoGeneralizations can be useful and many arguments won't go far without them. As for this specific generalization: I think we wouldn't have this argument if it wasn't legitimate. The political left increasingly consists of hypocrites who advertise free speech and liberalism, but act like fascists.
- mistermann 9y agoIf a generalization is objectively correct, what is the harm? One could argue that suppressing such comments contributes to sustaining mental illness.
- AlexandrB 9y agoI think you mean "Welcome to modern politics". Suppressing free speech you don't agree with is a time-tested tradition of most mainstream political thought. However, it's most disappointing to see from people you otherwise agree with.
- monochromatic 9y agoIn modern days, suppressing free speech is 90% a leftist thing.
- waistland01 9y agoyou might want to step outside friend, your 4chan is showing
- allengeorge 9y agoAnecdotally, I've noticed more people from the left of the political spectrum being less tolerant of any view that doesn't mirror their own. Note that I'm not saying all. And, people can be left on some issues, and even then, the degree varies.
- SippinLean 9y agoAnecdotal evidence may be unreliable due to cherry-picked or otherwise non-representative samples of typical cases.
- travmatt 9y agoDidn't a republican congressman literally commit a violent assault on a reporter, and then win accolades by the right and get rewarded for it? Do you believe violent assaults chill free speech?
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- mistermann 9y agoThat would fall within the 10%.
- monochromatic 9y agoI didn't say 100%.
- SippinLean 9y agoQuite a dangerous falsehood to parrot. I am strongly critical of many of the more conservative values espoused by the practitioners of major religions in the US; their view on these matters do NOT agree with my own. I will, however, fight for their right to express these views and practice their religion in my country (up until the point it infringes on another's rights).
- root_axis 9y agoI flagged this comment because it's a low-quality political attack made in bad faith which can only serve to start a political flamewar.
- occultist_throw 9y agoIve had a handful of previous Democratic voters, whom are classify themselves a Liberal, observe the same actions. "We support free speech, as long as you agree with the core tenants of Political Correctness, Affirmative Action, Feminism, and Liberalism." Whereas, Republicans/Conservatives have a much greater variance of ideas. There's the RINOs, the Moderates, the Libertarians, Tea Partiers, and more. Yes, there is infighting. But in the end, they all acknowledge each other as Republicans. They may have spirited "discussions", but they are all allied with the same goals in mind. Reagan taught them that well.
- dpark 9y agoYou talk about Republicans essentially being more inclusive and then trot out "RINOs" as an example. RINO is a disparaging term used specifically to exclude and shame certain Republicans. In what way do you imagine that this demonstrates that Republicans support diversity of thought?
- occultist_throw 9y agoIt was the word I could think of that expressed the sentiment. Would you prefer "Moderate centrist Republicans"? Or... you know, the term everyone knows. Republican in Name Only. There's also DINO as well.
- root_axis 9y agoYou're just proving his point further. RINO is literally a pejorative designed to marginalize "moderate republicans". Pretty much nobody uses the term DINO. "Everyone knows" the term RINO because conservatives consistently bash anyone who doesn't embrace rigid conservative idealism. Pejorative nicknames are a common rhetorical tactic used by conservatives, "RINO", "SJW", "Feminazi" "Cuckservative"... liberals don't do this. Of course, you'll say that liberals will use terms like "racist", "fascist" "sexist", "bigot" but those are english words you can look up in the dictionary (and it is common for conservatives to use these terms as well when saying that 'liberals are the real bigots/fascists/racists/sexists!!'), whereas conservative pejorative nicknames are invented by provocateurs with the intent to humiliate their intellectual opponents.
- dyarosla 9y agoLeft/right is a spectrum. No need to further segregate groups with comments like this even if it is in a half-joking manner.
- X86BSD 9y agoYeah that is what I immediately recognized. The tell tale pattern of the liberal left eating itself. Between evergreen college and even UCB and now this the left is literally eating itself and turning on everything they said they stood for to the point of comical absurdity.
- dang 9y agoWould you please not post ideological boilerplate to HN? Regardless of which ideology is your favorite. We're trying for a higher quality of discussion here (though admittedly this has been hard to observe lately).
- dang 9y agoWe detached this subthread from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14968871 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14968871 and marked it off-topic.