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Music Fandom Maps
- samat 9y agoIs this from some public YouTube data/API? Would really like to do this for other countries.
- oonny 9y agoVideoAmigo already does this for all countries (sourcing from YouTube) Top videos: https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-videos https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-videos Top Channels: https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-channels https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-channels Top Unsigned artists: https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-unsigned https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-unsigned You can sort each by country, genre, language.
- anonu 9y agothe country, genre, language is the reported country of the artist or channel. Not of the streams.
- diehell 9y agoI would like to do the same with my country (malaysia). Even video amigo doesn't have the stats for mine. How would one do this? That's the interesting bit.
- oonny 9y agoyours as in ... you as an artist? these are the top channels in Malaysia: https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-channels?c=Malaysia https://www.videoamigo.com/music-charts/top-music-channels?c...
- diehell 9y agoNo,i am not an artist. Just for fun, to have an idea, how does; in this situation (music, be it unsigned artist or artist) youtube views coincide with the local mainstream (radio) plays.
- smelterdemon 9y agoIt doesn't seem like it. I just did a quick look through the YouTube data/API and it seems like even with Vevo's auth (it looks like these are all artists with videos on Vevo and you need the content/channel owner's authorization to get reports on channels/videos) the viewer location data is only available at a country or state/province level through the API.
- timothy_yt 9y agoSome similar data for many different countries is displayed on the YouTube Artists site, though there doesn't appear to be an API. https://artists.youtube.com/insights/location https://artists.youtube.com/insights/location
- landonalder 9y agoMontanans really love their Eminem
- akhilcacharya 9y agoFun thing to think about - someone on twitter brought up that the Eminem map looks a lot like the Obama to Trump swing map. From what Maine, Michigan and Pennsylvania look like I think it's a decent match.
- thrownblown 9y agoRoughnecks love them some Eminem.
- vmarshall23 9y agoWow. Other than Metallica, I don't own an album by any of these people, and other than Metallica and Michael Jackson, I don't think I'd be able to name a single song by the few others that I do recognize the name. Oh, and I'm using the word "album". That probably explains it all ... :-)
- jbob2000 9y agoTheir analysis is biased. Young people predominantly use digital services to consume music, whereas older generations still use CDs and the radio. As an anecdote, the older I get, the less music I listen to. It used to be a big part of my identity, but now I just listen to music if it sounds good or if I need something to drown out the noise around me.
- thanatropism 9y agoAnecdote applies to me. I experience some headphone fatigue nowadays too. Once upon a time I must have been listening to music for 60-75% of my waking minutes. Also somehow I feel much more tranquil in just walking and listening to my thoughts and feelings (even unwelcome ones). I think I listened to a lot of music to experiment with different identities and ways of feeling, and approx. since I turned 30 I started to develop my own in a much more interesting way.
- TheTruestKyle 9y agoWhat are you considering old in this situation?
- coldtea 9y ago>Their analysis is biased. Young people predominantly use digital services to consume music, whereas older generations still use CDs and the radio. If you mean people in their 70s yes. Because even 50 and 60 year olds use YouTube A LOT, and I'm speaking in all around the world, including much less developed areas.
- hammock 9y agoYou're using the word album, you're referring to "owning" music, and appears you're unfamiliar with any new music from the last 20 years. Time to switch to spotify.
- the_cat_kittles 9y agoare these maps using county boundaries? i would prefer something like kernel density or normalizing for county population or something... but still very cool. mississippi louisiana alabama georgia seem to be one pole, and everywhere else the other.
- brookside 9y agoLikely correlating with race: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African-American_population https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_African...
- Gargoyle 9y agoEven more specific, you can see the Black Belt very clearly in a lot of the maps. Some artists correlate very positively, some very negatively. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(U.S._region) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Belt_(U.S._region)
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- Gargoyle 9y agoEdit- No, it's actually not counties. There are more divisions on the map in Northern Arizona than there are counties there. Not sure what the divisions are. Zip code maybe?
- no_gravity 9y agoSince I run https://www.music-map.com https://www.music-map.com this naturally caught my eye. Unfortunately, there is no word on the methodology except that they did it with "the help of YouTube’s geocoded streaming data". Does anybody know what that is?
- mfoy_ 9y agoWhy is it that on some maps the artist is very far away from another, but when you click on that artist the original one appears much closer? Is the scale relative? Is there any indicator how scaled up or down the relationships are?
- no_gravity 9y agoIt's a simulated annealing process that happens live in front of you. Each artist has a desired distance to each other artist and is trying to get to a position that satisfies all these desired distances as good as possible.
- anonu 9y agoHow does your music map work? Not too clear on how related artists are picked. Also, I'm guessing that the nyt got some sort of special dataset from YouTube. Geo located streams are priveleged to the content owner, per the YouTube API.
- no_gravity 9y agoIt is all user driven. The map is based on what people enter at http://www.gnoosic.com http://www.gnoosic.com.
- timothy_yt 9y agoI expect that the data is the same as what is found on the YouTube Artists site, which has music data for different geographic regions. Go to https://artists.youtube.com/insights/location https://artists.youtube.com/insights/location and click on "How is this calculated?".
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- sushisource 9y agoAs with any map like this, the most startling thing to me is how the south really is a totally different culture, almost a totally different country.
- bluedino 9y agoIt's a race thing - most of the country's African American population lives in the south, with little pockets scattered elsewhere. NYT did a similar set of maps for TV shows and the results were similar. White America likes hip-hop, as you can see from the maps but there's almost no interest in other pop music from the south.
- leemcalilly 9y agoHere's an interesting filter to apply to this map: all of the innovative music from the last 100 years originated in the triangle between Memphis, New Orleans and Nashville—blues, jazz, R&B, rock and roll, and country. All of those genres were born in that small geographical area. It's the Silicon valley of modern music. You could also argue that hip hop is a permutation of blues/r&b.
- freehunter 9y agoWhat's also interesting is that now that triangle is "the established players" and the disruption comes from various other areas. Grunge from Seattle, Motown/R&B from Detroit, hip-hop from Atlanta, old-time from Asheville, electric blues from Chicago. Much like how Apple from Silicon Valley owned the idea of buying digital music until Spotify swooped in from Sweden and disrupted that business model and forced Apple to change their plans, the Nashville sound is in constant danger of being disrupted from afar by similar-but-more-modern sounds. Interesting parallel I think.
- nissimk 9y agoThe integrated youtube videos are really nice in this page. I like this best as an introduction to music I haven't heard. I like Kevin Gates 2 Phones.
- ericzawo 9y agoKevin Gates is an amazing, underrated artist and absolutely worth your time.
- Shivetya 9y agoOkay, took me a minute to understand it. So this is only based on Youtube views? I am more interested in radio, let alone if we could ever map iTunes sales to regions by song that would be impressive too. Another good area to explore is what are various college radio stations playing across the country? With regards to youtube, some genres of music have been more aggressive using the medium than others and even some older artists have barely accepted the digital age fully or took a long time to do so.
- iamatworknow 9y agoWould radio be a good indicator of what people are actually listening to, though? All that would tell you is what the station is playing, not how many people are listening. Plus, stations have their own motives to play (or not play) what they do. From what I've seen if people don't have access to their "own" media (be it a Spotify subscription, iTunes, loose MP3, CDs, whatever) and they want to listen to a song, YouTube is where they go.
- Katastrophial 9y agoI’d be interested in how they got the raw data for this. I’m thinking of maybe making a site where you type in an artist name and it shows a map like this for them.
- GoodAdmiral 9y agoI mean yeah their entire discography is pretty religious. Makes sense. I do enjoy it while being non-religious myself however.
- santaclaus 9y agoWhat is the random zip code in eastern Washington that really likes to bump Future?
- santaclaus 9y agoIt would be cool to see the inverse of this -- a service that analyzes your Spotify history and guesses where you are from.
- boogiewoogie 9y agoI'd rather see how the top touring bands are distributed.
- crazygringo 9y agoFascinating. But so many of the maps look identical to each other, they obviously "cluster" together. I'd be much more interested in seeing a SVD-style analysis that showed a map for each dimension and listed the bands that most closely matched the dimension. It would literally discover "geographical music genres".
- freehunter 9y agoI found it weird looking at my region and not a single map had any significant shading to it. I wonder if our tastes are just that esoteric or my neighbors prefer a genre of music that isn't represented in this article. Also some of their analysis doesn't quite line up with the graphic... "of course, Eminem is popular in his hometown, Detroit" while Detroit is as darkly shaded on the map as, say, northern New Mexico.