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It matters if they have professors that grade on a curve. Take all of those students who wouldn't pass the math entrance exam and put then in the same College

It matters if they have professors that grade on a curve. Take all of those students who wouldn't pass the math entrance exam and put then in the same College Algebra class. They are all terrible students but the curve grading passes 80% of them. > allow students to have a shot at taking actual credit courses rather than being forced into noncredit remedial classes they may not actually need If the placement tests are done well, they would indicate that which remedial classes the students may need. If the tests are flawed, fix the tests, don't eliminate them. While putting them into 101 classes may help them, it slows down the rest of the class -- the students who are up-to-speed on the skills required for the class get less attention spent on them because more focus must be placed on the students who didn't pass placement.

matt_wulfeck 9y ago
> If the tests are flawed, fix the tests, don't eliminate them. The tests are fine and we know it. The students are bad and so are their parents, who were also bad students. Source: I was a bad student who had to change a lot in life. Magically when my attitude towards school changed so did my grades. Teachers can only do so much yet burden almost all of the blame.
- RonanTheGrey 9y ago
  > Magically when my attitude towards school changed so did my grades. Funny how that works. "Why won't you learn?!" "It doesn't matter to me!" is not a recipe for success. I appreciate what you said. Made me want to jump out of my chair and clap. But then I would have been escorted to the loony bin, so...
jacalata 9y ago
Why do you believe that having a test administered by the school is the only way to identify students needing remedial help? The school is arguing that they can do a better job of identification by using existing grades and test scores. What's your evidence against this argument?

matt_wulfeck 9y ago

> If the tests are flawed, fix the tests, don't eliminate them. The tests are fine and we know it. The students are bad and so are their parents, who were also bad students. Source: I was a bad student who had to change a lot in life. Magically when my attitude towards school changed so did my grades. Teachers can only do so much yet burden almost all of the blame.

RonanTheGrey 9y ago
> Magically when my attitude towards school changed so did my grades. Funny how that works. "Why won't you learn?!" "It doesn't matter to me!" is not a recipe for success. I appreciate what you said. Made me want to jump out of my chair and clap. But then I would have been escorted to the loony bin, so...

jacalata 9y ago

Why do you believe that having a test administered by the school is the only way to identify students needing remedial help? The school is arguing that they can do a better job of identification by using existing grades and test scores. What's your evidence against this argument?