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It's amazing that there's such a thing as remedial classes in a university, but hey, how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body?
by xienze 9y ago
It's amazing that there's such a thing as remedial classes in a university, but hey, how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body?
- Clubber 9y agoAre you insinuating white people don't need remedial classes?
- oh_sigh 9y agoAre you insinuating that white people can't be diverse?
- Clubber 9y agoThey can't be racially diverse if they are white. If you mean educationally diverse, you're just trolling.
- msla 9y agoSo White people are all one race, now? Germans and Slavs and Scandinavians and Italians are all the same? When did that happen?
- Clubber 9y agoYes, it's Caucasian. There is a difference between race and country of origin. I mean wow.
- msla 9y agoHuh. Hasn't always been. Look up the history of race sometime. Race is politics and not biology. I mean wow.
- Clubber 9y agoAre you saying Germans and Slavs and Italians aren't the same race, i.e. Caucasian? That's what you were stating. I understand the origins of race, but you implied they weren't the same race.
- msla 9y agoMaybe they're the same race now, but historically it hasn't been that simple. Hell, Italians and Irish haven't always been considered White.
- dragonwriter 9y ago> So White people are all one race, now? Always have been, pretty much since the classic idea of defined “races” was formed, in early race models—whether in two-race (Caucadoid/Mongoloid), three race (adding Negroid), or five-race (white, yellow, brown, black, and red) models—whites were, alone or with some others, one race.
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- lambdaphagy 9y agoThere's an entire department of the federal government whose first, or perhaps even only, priority is to deal with the fact that OP indelicately mentioned.
- oculusthrift 9y agowhich department? i seem to be missing the implication
- lambdaphagy 9y agoMost directly, Ed. But now that you mention it, Justice is a close second.
- oculusthrift 9y agojeff sessions justice department?
- lambdaphagy 9y agoI'm commenting on trends that have persisted over administrations, and certainly accelerated under the last one. I don't pretend to know what's going on with this one, except to note that the career staff of many agencies are in semi-open revolt.
- justin_vanw 9y agoOf course all kinds of people can land in these remedial classes if they are not prepared. Now, I ask you, which schools do a better job of preparing students for college level work, the schools white kids get to go to or the schools black kids have to go to? If you are wondering, look at the AP classes offered at say Palo Alto high school vs Crenshaw high school: http://schools.latimes.com/school/los-angeles/crenshaw-senior-high/ http://schools.latimes.com/school/los-angeles/crenshaw-senio... http://schools.latimes.com/school/palo-alto/palo-alto-high/ http://schools.latimes.com/school/palo-alto/palo-alto-high/ Highlights: Proficient in Math: PA: 76% Crenshaw: 2.5% (not a typo) Proficient in English: PA: 84% Crenshaw: 18% Now, are you saying we shouldn't let bright kids from bad schools get into college?
- Clubber 9y ago>Now, are you saying we shouldn't let bright kids from bad schools get into college? Show me where I implied that.
- justin_vanw 9y agoI was just using your technique of putting words in someone else's mouth, with a question mark at the end. See GP post.
- Clubber 9y agoApparently you were the only person in this thread who couldn't see the implication. >how else are we going to get an adequately diverse student body? (without remedial classes). I didn't have to put words into his mouth, you did. I guess you're just intellectually diverse. See what I implied there? Maybe you didn't.
- michaelchisari 9y agoPalo Alto Avg. Income: $126,771 Inglewood Avg. Income: $43,394 Wouldn't it make sense to compare like-to-like, and choose two schools in areas with similar incomes?
- xienze 9y agoFrom a different article about this same subject[1]: > The policy announcement “aims to address inequities in college readiness head-on in order to close gaps in degree attainment and afford all students the opportunity to succeed,” When a policy like this is couched in that sort of language, it's pretty obvious that the changes aren't being made because white kids are having trouble graduating. [1]: https://edsource.org/2017/cal-state-adopts-new-policies-to-help-students-who-need-remedial-help-in-english-and-math/585645 https://edsource.org/2017/cal-state-adopts-new-policies-to-h...
- drewbuschhorn 9y agoEh, numbers seem to match up with national numbers, and there's not a huge difference between ethnicities https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_270.asp https://nces.ed.gov/programs/digest/d12/tables/dt12_270.asp The scary one to me is "field of study: education" : 41.1. 41% of future teachers need remedial education? Wonder how that stacks up to other countries.
- dsfyu404ed 9y agoEducation, psych, business, english, journalism, etc are buckets that catch a lot of people who don't know what they want to major in but go to college because "that's what you do"
- smelly_turd 9y agoGo to community college like I did. I took a bunch of remedial classes that helped me prepare for university. I wasn't prepared for a real university education out of high school. But after 3 years of community college (2 major switches) I transferred to UCSD for CS and got by BS and am currently doing my masters. I don't think lowering the standards is a good idea. I think we should fill the gap's in education left by high schools failing at their jobs.