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The problem with the Spolsky example is that Atlassian with their huge open-plan offices completely overshadowed Fog Creek in just a few short years.
by 6nf 9y ago
The problem with the Spolsky example is that Atlassian with their huge open-plan offices completely overshadowed Fog Creek in just a few short years.
- anildash 9y agoIn some ways. They did raise $60 million, too, which didn't hurt. I think we're doing just fine having a successful business on our own terms. For what it's worth, Atlassian's NYC headquarters is… our Fog Creek offices, complete with private offices for coders. More about that here: https://medium.com/make-better-software/apple-is-about-to-do-something-their-programmers-definitely-dont-want-fc19f5f4487 https://medium.com/make-better-software/apple-is-about-to-do... (Source: I'm the CEO of Fog Creek.)
- 6nf 9y agoThe NYC 'headqarters' is not even on their list of locations https://www.atlassian.com/company/careers https://www.atlassian.com/company/careers so I'd be surprised if it hosts a signficant percentage of their development workforce. As far as I know their Sydney office is really the heart of their operation and it's very open plan.
- loco5niner 9y agoI don't think he is saying Atlassian HQ is _located_ at Fog Creek, but that Atlassian HQ has a similar office plan as Fog Creek, "complete with private offices for coders".
- sencho 9y agohttps://www.businessinsider.com.au/atlassian-sydney-office-2017-7# https://www.businessinsider.com.au/atlassian-sydney-office-2...
- whipoodle 9y agoI don't think that's a problem, more a question of leadership's priorities.
- blub 9y agoEconomic success is not a proxy for doing things properly. Many dysfunctional companies are very successful otherwise.