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FYI you can view dead/flagged submissions by going to your profile and enabling showdead. I don't know if this is the correct place to criticize HN's moderatio

by as1mov 9y ago

FYI you can view dead/flagged submissions by going to your profile and enabling showdead. I don't know if this is the correct place to criticize HN's moderation policies, it's kinda disheartening to see the list of submissions that were removed. News articles regarding the diversity memo were allowed but submissions linking to the actual memo were removed for some reason. If the actual memo is sexist/bigoted, then people can read it directly and decide it for themselves, instead of relying on second hand information. I mean even if you agree with what Google did, isn't it good that we discuss about it and point out the things that were problematic with that memo. What good does it do if we just try to shove the incident into a closet and pretend that it never happened? Edit: Even this post was flagged :/

jacquesm 9y ago
Yes, but the discussion instantly dies and when flagged to death you can't even comment anymore.
- as1mov 9y ago
  That's just abuse of the flagging system. I don't get why people want to hide something that they don't agree with from everyone's eyes. Why not just ignore the post if you don't want to participate in the discussion. If someone wants an echochamber where only things that you agree with are visible, reddit is much better place for that, regardless of which side of the debate you are on, you'll find a subreddit that fits you.
greenyoda 9y ago
"News articles regarding the diversity memo were allowed but submissions linking to the actual memo were removed for some reason." No, this article, the first one to publish the full text of the memo, got 353 points and received 616 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14937895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14937895 Several subsequent submissions of the same content were flagged as duplicates.
- as1mov 9y ago
  The Gizmodo article omits several of the links to various studies that the actual memo makes. Even though the article actually mentions this, I doubt many people will actually will make the effort to know what those references were. And to be honest I don't think many people read beyond the articles summary, as evident by the discussion of the post.
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by as1mov 9y ago

jacquesm 9y ago

Yes, but the discussion instantly dies and when flagged to death you can't even comment anymore.

as1mov 9y ago
That's just abuse of the flagging system. I don't get why people want to hide something that they don't agree with from everyone's eyes. Why not just ignore the post if you don't want to participate in the discussion. If someone wants an echochamber where only things that you agree with are visible, reddit is much better place for that, regardless of which side of the debate you are on, you'll find a subreddit that fits you.

greenyoda 9y ago

"News articles regarding the diversity memo were allowed but submissions linking to the actual memo were removed for some reason." No, this article, the first one to publish the full text of the memo, got 353 points and received 616 comments: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14937895 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14937895 Several subsequent submissions of the same content were flagged as duplicates.

as1mov 9y ago
The Gizmodo article omits several of the links to various studies that the actual memo makes. Even though the article actually mentions this, I doubt many people will actually will make the effort to know what those references were. And to be honest I don't think many people read beyond the articles summary, as evident by the discussion of the post.

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