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I am not even joking. In the next few years we are going to see Linux on the desktop!

pjmlp 9y ago
Not really because what Microsoft is doing is actually GNU/Windows. Google is busy with ChromeOS/Linux and Android/Linux. Apple keeps developing their NeXTSTEP/BSD derivative.
- gargarplex 9y ago
  I like the precision and clarity of your thinking. Would you be interested in being paid to write freelance blog posts?
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    No thanks, my hands are already full as it is.
- Spivak 9y ago
  This is actually really interesting. Google doesn't have a kernel so they're borrowing Linux. Microsoft doesn't have a good developer userspace so they're borrowing GNU's.
  - pjmlp 9y ago
    Not all Windows developers agree with that, though.
  - mariusmg 9y ago
    >Microsoft doesn't have a good developer userspace What does this even mean ? They do have the best IDE on the market ( Visual Studio). What they are really lacking is a proper console emulator app, but there is still the excellent ConEmu for this (3rd party , doesn't belong to MS).
    - gargarplex 9y ago
      https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87625/what-is-difference-between-user-space-and-kernel-space https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87625/what-is-diffe...
Spivak 9y ago
See, as much as it's a meme at this point, this is really where the GNU/Linux distinction is important. WSL is really GNU/Windows which is probably horrifying and a massive success story for the FSF.
- monkmartinez 9y ago
  Can you clarify the GNU/Linux distinction with regard to the WSL? I mean... isn't the main WSL layer a flavor of Ubuntu?
  - cwyers 9y ago
    Linux is the name of the kernel. It is also used as the name of the kernel plus the userland, which has a lot of GNU code in it (although give Poettering some time and we'll see). WSL is the userland without the kernel.
  - Spivak 9y ago
    WSL is running Ubuntu software with the GNU userspace on top of the Windows kernel using a Linux translation layer.

Not really because what Microsoft is doing is actually GNU/Windows. Google is busy with ChromeOS/Linux and Android/Linux. Apple keeps developing their NeXTSTEP/BSD derivative.

gargarplex 9y ago
I like the precision and clarity of your thinking. Would you be interested in being paid to write freelance blog posts?
- pjmlp 9y ago
  No thanks, my hands are already full as it is.
Spivak 9y ago
This is actually really interesting. Google doesn't have a kernel so they're borrowing Linux. Microsoft doesn't have a good developer userspace so they're borrowing GNU's.
- pjmlp 9y ago
  Not all Windows developers agree with that, though.
- mariusmg 9y ago
  >Microsoft doesn't have a good developer userspace What does this even mean ? They do have the best IDE on the market ( Visual Studio). What they are really lacking is a proper console emulator app, but there is still the excellent ConEmu for this (3rd party , doesn't belong to MS).
  - gargarplex 9y ago
    https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87625/what-is-difference-between-user-space-and-kernel-space https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/87625/what-is-diffe...

Spivak 9y ago

See, as much as it's a meme at this point, this is really where the GNU/Linux distinction is important. WSL is really GNU/Windows which is probably horrifying and a massive success story for the FSF.

monkmartinez 9y ago
Can you clarify the GNU/Linux distinction with regard to the WSL? I mean... isn't the main WSL layer a flavor of Ubuntu?
- cwyers 9y ago
  Linux is the name of the kernel. It is also used as the name of the kernel plus the userland, which has a lot of GNU code in it (although give Poettering some time and we'll see). WSL is the userland without the kernel.
- Spivak 9y ago
  WSL is running Ubuntu software with the GNU userspace on top of the Windows kernel using a Linux translation layer.