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I find the grouping of Facebook and Google interesting because I don't view them as similar at all. His Google complaints seem to be aimed at YouTube, and while

I find the grouping of Facebook and Google interesting because I don't view them as similar at all. His Google complaints seem to be aimed at YouTube, and while certainly it could be argued YouTube is addictive, it doesn't seem anywhere near as insidious or manipulative as say Facebook. It is also an amazing platform for creators of all kinds, and also unlike Facebook is creating this incredible resource of freely available, forever archived videos. I see great public good from that. On the Facebook front, there I agree 100%.

soperj 9y ago
Yeah, I don't really partake in the weird side of youtube, the number of things i've learned how to do(fix things, build things, cook things etc) from youtube is enormous. Most things I should be able to do myself, and it's because of the people who post things on youtube.
Kenji 9y ago
Yes. Facebook is evil, Google is misguided. Besides, Google's services give me much more value than anything Facebook has to offer. Facebook's """"hidden"""" ads in my feed trigger me. Do they think I'm stupid?
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- rahilb 9y ago
  >Do they think I'm stupid? I suppose that's a reasonable assumption to make about the average user of anything (myself included).
kodt 9y ago
You should see the way young children use YouTube if you doubt that it is addictive.
- nicpottier 9y ago
  As with TV? Maybe a bit worse because you can wander down your YouTube black hole instead of being subject to the scheduled broadcasts. Yes, it is addictive, but not in the same manipulative way that Facebook is.
  - cisanti 9y ago
    It was easier to cut the TV time for the kids. Every kid has a cell phone nowadays, for practical and popularity reasons, it's so much more difficult to manage their "online time". In the end, they become more tech-savvy than you and they will remove the technical limits if you happen to set them up for them.
- civilian 9y ago
  You should see the way young children use wooden blocks if you doubt that wooden blocks are addictive. I watched my nephews, for 20 minutes, simply throw blocks into a box and say "throw and a miss! Throw and a hit!" It was mindless and ritualistic, and frankly we should frightened of this wooden blocks trend. Don't get me started on the game they call "Tag". /s I feel like the word "addiction" is losing it's meaning. Just because someone likes something and continues to do it doesn't mean that it's an addiction. // edit: And really, think about your own experience with video games. Sure, we all played video games at the expense of our homework and conversation with my parents. But who could blame me? Middle & high school cater to the students with room-temp IQs, my parents just rambled about the economy and weather and the boring things I talk about now, and I lacked any challenge in my life expect punking noobs in Starcraft.
  - throwaway91111 9y ago
    I won't address most of your comment, but if my generation's interest in video games is anything like the future, I have very little hope in our ability as humans to resist being manipulated by people with money. It's less the homework and more your ability to interact with your neighbor without a reward.
  - ghostbrainalpha 9y ago

soperj 9y ago

Yeah, I don't really partake in the weird side of youtube, the number of things i've learned how to do(fix things, build things, cook things etc) from youtube is enormous. Most things I should be able to do myself, and it's because of the people who post things on youtube.

Kenji 9y ago

Yes. Facebook is evil, Google is misguided. Besides, Google's services give me much more value than anything Facebook has to offer. Facebook's """"hidden"""" ads in my feed trigger me. Do they think I'm stupid?

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rahilb 9y ago
>Do they think I'm stupid? I suppose that's a reasonable assumption to make about the average user of anything (myself included).

kodt 9y ago

You should see the way young children use YouTube if you doubt that it is addictive.

nicpottier 9y ago
As with TV? Maybe a bit worse because you can wander down your YouTube black hole instead of being subject to the scheduled broadcasts. Yes, it is addictive, but not in the same manipulative way that Facebook is.
- cisanti 9y ago
  It was easier to cut the TV time for the kids. Every kid has a cell phone nowadays, for practical and popularity reasons, it's so much more difficult to manage their "online time". In the end, they become more tech-savvy than you and they will remove the technical limits if you happen to set them up for them.
civilian 9y ago
You should see the way young children use wooden blocks if you doubt that wooden blocks are addictive. I watched my nephews, for 20 minutes, simply throw blocks into a box and say "throw and a miss! Throw and a hit!" It was mindless and ritualistic, and frankly we should frightened of this wooden blocks trend. Don't get me started on the game they call "Tag". /s I feel like the word "addiction" is losing it's meaning. Just because someone likes something and continues to do it doesn't mean that it's an addiction. // edit: And really, think about your own experience with video games. Sure, we all played video games at the expense of our homework and conversation with my parents. But who could blame me? Middle & high school cater to the students with room-temp IQs, my parents just rambled about the economy and weather and the boring things I talk about now, and I lacked any challenge in my life expect punking noobs in Starcraft.
- throwaway91111 9y ago
  I won't address most of your comment, but if my generation's interest in video games is anything like the future, I have very little hope in our ability as humans to resist being manipulated by people with money. It's less the homework and more your ability to interact with your neighbor without a reward.
- ghostbrainalpha 9y ago