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I'm not involved in autonomous vehicles at all but as an engineer, I'm pretty confident we are a long way away from level 4/5. Without significantly reworking

I'm not involved in autonomous vehicles at all but as an engineer, I'm pretty confident we are a long way away from level 4/5. Without significantly reworking current infrastructure the challenges presented by city driving are too fuzzy to guarantee safety. For example, traffic lights can be obscured, out of order, or spoofed; unless they are modified to support av; I don't think this is solvable. Although autonomous vehicles will require a safety driver for a while, interim benefits still exist and services like this will potentially provide the momentum needed to make those infrastructure changes.

organsnyder 9y ago
> For example, traffic lights can be obscured, out of order, or spoofed Wouldn't that also potentially impact human drivers?
ncallaway 9y ago
> Without significantly reworking current infrastructure the challenges presented by city driving are too fuzzy to guarantee safety. But, there's no guarantee of safety now. Human drivers are fallible and fail all the time. A guarantee of safety is a crazy metric to require before we can allow autonomous vehicles. A better metric is: "before the vehicle is more safe than the median human driver". Once it hits that level of safety, it should be in the streets.