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Any kind of extremism, be it from right or from left, should be banned and legally prosecuted in any civilized and democratic country, by the law enforcement an

Any kind of extremism, be it from right or from left, should be banned and legally prosecuted in any civilized and democratic country, by the law enforcement and not by individuals or private companies. If someone destroys your property during a protest or if he/she puts your family in potential physical danger, this person is an extremist in my book. Seems that some people take my comment too literally. I meant in a DEMOCRATIC society. If you are living in a Dictatorship all bets are off.

toomanybeersies 9y ago
And who gets to define extremism?
- bolololo12 9y ago
  looks like Airbnb is defining and enforcing it's rules.
joekrill 9y ago
The problem is: who gets to define extremism? It may seem pretty clear cut to you in this particular instance, but it's a slippery slope. In the US, Republicans may want to label Democrats as extremists, and vice versa. We've already seen it happen with groups like Black Lives Matters. This is why -- in the US -- we have the first amendment and defend it so vigorously (ideally).
zimablue 9y ago
OK then, but who draws the lines on what's extremism? Do you have to want to overthrow the government? What about just heavily reform it? What lines on immigration policy would put you under prosecution, Total ban? Muslim Ban? Point system? I have no support at all for white nationalism but it's insane and counterproductive for big "service-like" companies to be enforcing their own political correctness through bans.
- AlexeyBrin 9y ago
  > What lines on immigration policy would put you under prosecution, Total ban? Muslim Ban? Point system? You are projecting your own thoughts on my previous comment. I honestly had no idea it can interpreted like this ... read it again and if you see any suggestion that I would condone any kind of ban based on religion, gender or skin color I will ban myself from HN.
- ko27 9y ago
  > OK then, but who draws the lines on what's extremism? They do, considering it's their business. It's not as abstract as you think it is. This clearly violates their ToS. "In 2016 we established the Airbnb Community Commitment reflecting our belief that to make good on our mission of belonging, those who are members of the Airbnb community accept people regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, or age," > I have no support at all for white nationalism But you do when a private company doesn't want to do business with them? I am sure you will try to generalize this incident as giving fuel to potential future oppression against humanitarians, revolutionists and what not... but that is only relevant if they really do that in practice, and they don't.
  - icebraining 9y ago
    They do, considering it's their business. AirBnB should define what Law Enforcement should prosecute? I don't think you've followed the context of the previous post.

toomanybeersies 9y ago

And who gets to define extremism?

bolololo12 9y ago
looks like Airbnb is defining and enforcing it's rules.

joekrill 9y ago

The problem is: who gets to define extremism? It may seem pretty clear cut to you in this particular instance, but it's a slippery slope. In the US, Republicans may want to label Democrats as extremists, and vice versa. We've already seen it happen with groups like Black Lives Matters. This is why -- in the US -- we have the first amendment and defend it so vigorously (ideally).

zimablue 9y ago

OK then, but who draws the lines on what's extremism? Do you have to want to overthrow the government? What about just heavily reform it? What lines on immigration policy would put you under prosecution, Total ban? Muslim Ban? Point system? I have no support at all for white nationalism but it's insane and counterproductive for big "service-like" companies to be enforcing their own political correctness through bans.

AlexeyBrin 9y ago
> What lines on immigration policy would put you under prosecution, Total ban? Muslim Ban? Point system? You are projecting your own thoughts on my previous comment. I honestly had no idea it can interpreted like this ... read it again and if you see any suggestion that I would condone any kind of ban based on religion, gender or skin color I will ban myself from HN.
ko27 9y ago
> OK then, but who draws the lines on what's extremism? They do, considering it's their business. It's not as abstract as you think it is. This clearly violates their ToS. "In 2016 we established the Airbnb Community Commitment reflecting our belief that to make good on our mission of belonging, those who are members of the Airbnb community accept people regardless of their race, religion, national origin, ethnicity, disability, sex, gender identity, sexual orientation, or age," > I have no support at all for white nationalism But you do when a private company doesn't want to do business with them? I am sure you will try to generalize this incident as giving fuel to potential future oppression against humanitarians, revolutionists and what not... but that is only relevant if they really do that in practice, and they don't.
- icebraining 9y ago
  They do, considering it's their business. AirBnB should define what Law Enforcement should prosecute? I don't think you've followed the context of the previous post.