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Do you think defending your country from invasion is worse than letting some assholes conquer your home?

by executesorder66 9y ago

fsloth 9y ago
Historically the large powers have instigated conflicts as much as defended against incursion. So, I think it's highly context sensitive what sort of war people are thinking about depending on the country.
arethuza 9y ago
If the question was "would you fight a war to stop some assholes conquer your home?" then I would answer "yes". However, given that there has to be two side to any conflict somebody presumably has to be the "assholes" and that's not something I'd be too happy doing.
- executesorder66 9y ago
  A completely agree. I was just pointing out that going to war doesn't automatically = bad.
- rjsw 9y ago
  The "assholes" may not have come from elsewhere.
darklajid 9y ago
If the question is 'Are you willing to fight for your country' then a 'Sure, count me in. Huzzah!' seems to be a bit more than the commitment to defend your home. Defending your country is - as far as I'm concerned - a very specific case of fighting for your country. Also - defending a country (a more or less random historical entity with potentially largely different political and ethical views even among residents) shouldn't be conflated with defending your home. For me the former is abstract and quite artificial. The latter is literally the place where I live.
duncanawoods 9y ago
Note that "defending your country from invasion" isn't the survey question, its "fight a war for". For the UK, our next war is much more likely to be a war of aggression or an intervention in someone else's conflict hence rather low desire to get involved. If there were a credible threat, I'm pretty sure the figure would be much higher. I expect the answers is highly correlated with "is the next war your country involved defending from an aggressor or being the aggressor?".

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Do you think defending your country from invasion is worse than letting some assholes conquer your home?

by executesorder66 9y ago

Do you think defending your country from invasion is worse than letting some assholes conquer your home?

fsloth 9y ago
Historically the large powers have instigated conflicts as much as defended against incursion. So, I think it's highly context sensitive what sort of war people are thinking about depending on the country.
arethuza 9y ago
If the question was "would you fight a war to stop some assholes conquer your home?" then I would answer "yes". However, given that there has to be two side to any conflict somebody presumably has to be the "assholes" and that's not something I'd be too happy doing.
- executesorder66 9y ago
  A completely agree. I was just pointing out that going to war doesn't automatically = bad.
- rjsw 9y ago
  The "assholes" may not have come from elsewhere.
darklajid 9y ago
If the question is 'Are you willing to fight for your country' then a 'Sure, count me in. Huzzah!' seems to be a bit more than the commitment to defend your home. Defending your country is - as far as I'm concerned - a very specific case of fighting for your country. Also - defending a country (a more or less random historical entity with potentially largely different political and ethical views even among residents) shouldn't be conflated with defending your home. For me the former is abstract and quite artificial. The latter is literally the place where I live.
duncanawoods 9y ago
Note that "defending your country from invasion" isn't the survey question, its "fight a war for". For the UK, our next war is much more likely to be a war of aggression or an intervention in someone else's conflict hence rather low desire to get involved. If there were a credible threat, I'm pretty sure the figure would be much higher. I expect the answers is highly correlated with "is the next war your country involved defending from an aggressor or being the aggressor?".