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The conclusions here are obvious to anyone that's been living in the US in the last decade or two. It's not that difficult to see/feel the changing weather patt

by mnm1 9y ago

The conclusions here are obvious to anyone that's been living in the US in the last decade or two. It's not that difficult to see/feel the changing weather patterns. So why does it need approval? This is science. What kind of science needs approval? If the government agencies want to dispute this, let them put forward a different hypothesis from the data. This authoritarian monopoly that various government agencies have on science has got to stop. It's not just climate change. Facts like cannabis being a safe substance, lead being dangerous, etc. are/were ignored for decades. It seems to me government funds studies and then ignores their conclusions. This is clearly not in the interest of society. At the very least it's an absolute waste of money. Will the government ever represent the people and their interests or is it just too far gone for that to the point that we're stuck with the interests of a few assholes controlling and ruining everything?

s_kilk 9y ago
> So why does it need approval? This is science. What kind of science needs approval? One word: Capital. There's a hell of a lot of money tied up in the carbon industry, and maintaining the status-quo for that section of the capital class is predicated on not acknowledging climate change.
- specialist 9y ago
  Political. Industry is asking for a carbon tax. Some of the players on the losing side just need to be bought off.
7952 9y ago
Because it is not really about the science. What people differ on is the level of moral responsibility we hold. Some people simply reject the moral imperative to protect the environment. And science does not help in that argument. You cannot scientifically prove that someone should care about a moral issue. They have to understand at a more intuitive and emotional level first. This takes time and is messy (see every contentious political issue ever).

by mnm1 9y ago

s_kilk 9y ago

> So why does it need approval? This is science. What kind of science needs approval? One word: Capital. There's a hell of a lot of money tied up in the carbon industry, and maintaining the status-quo for that section of the capital class is predicated on not acknowledging climate change.

specialist 9y ago
Political. Industry is asking for a carbon tax. Some of the players on the losing side just need to be bought off.

7952 9y ago

Because it is not really about the science. What people differ on is the level of moral responsibility we hold. Some people simply reject the moral imperative to protect the environment. And science does not help in that argument. You cannot scientifically prove that someone should care about a moral issue. They have to understand at a more intuitive and emotional level first. This takes time and is messy (see every contentious political issue ever).