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In this thread: "I don't agree with what the scientists said so either they're cherry picked, or bad scientists, or right-wing" Republicans on global warming:

• candiodari 9y ago
  A pro-science party wouldn't toe even the republican line on many of these issues and therefore "be racist". It would say different races have ... shudder differences They might even point out that the difference between men and women, as measured in DNA differences, is bigger than the differences between humans and mice. This might result in some actual differences, and likely not just in appearance. Nobody seems to want to hear these obvious facts, we've just collectively agreed that we're going to ignore this and even change the science to reflect political opinion. Apparently the message that yes, sexes and races are different, and we've chosen to ignore that is considered a racist attitude itself.
  • stoobe 9y ago
    haha yeah, apparently acknowledging facts about average differences makes one a racists/bigot/asshole. my guess is that most people have a hard time distinguishing that statements about a population distribution do not mean an endorsement stereotyping.
    • almost_usual 9y ago
      Google would scout and hire anyone regardless of race or gender if they were talented enough.
      • canoebuilder 9y ago
        They would, "Software is an IQ business." - Bill Gates The fact that google is well known for seeking out the most intelligence and talented, and the fact that Asians and Jews are highly "over-represented" among googlers if one were to extrapolate a random population sample as being the only SJW approved workforce, the fact that these two groups are so over-represented implies that... Jews and Asians tend towards smarter rather than dumber, which anyone paying attention has kind of noticed.
        • DarkKomunalec 9y ago
          > the fact that these two groups are so over-represented implies that... Jews and Asians tend towards smarter rather than dumber, But when white people are over-represented, it implies privilege and racism, never intelligence.
        • tynpeddler 9y ago
          Google isn't looking for the most intelligent and talented people and hiring them. There are lots of smart people who are not engineers and lack the skills Google needs. Google is looking for the the most talented people in the group of people who's interests make them useful to Google. It's an important distinction, and one that is at the heart of Damore's memo.
  • 7952 9y ago
    We absolutely do need better scientific understanding in politics. But the whole point of politics is to deal with issues where objective fact and science are not enough to make a decision. Some questions require making a value judgement. Science is useful in helping to predict the future, but it has no opinion on what we should actually do. A lot of these questions are moral, and the science is just used as an excuse.
• yawaramin 9y ago
  Three out of four scientists in this article agreed with the Google memo. Something like 95% of scientists accept the prevailing theory that climate change is exacerbated by human activities. That's obviously the same thing, right?