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> Diversity programs are not about lowering the bar, they are about outreach. > Nobody is being insulted by this. Some people are insulted by this [0]. When
by lhnz 9y ago
> Diversity programs are not about lowering the bar, they are about outreach.
> Nobody is being insulted by this.
Some people are insulted by this [0]. When I said these programs already do disempower women, I wasn't speaking for all women: I was referring to what I had read. We can't just ignore people's lived experiences when they don't suit our positions.
[0] https://communequation.wordpress.com/2017/07/05/im-not-a-woman-in-tech/ https://communequation.wordpress.com/2017/07/05/im-not-a-wom...
- joshuamorton 9y agoI think you should reread that article. It is stating that this woman, someone who is already successfully integrated into the "Tech Scene" is not the problem to be solved by outreach. Which is true. That doesn't mean that she would be insulted by outreach to women. It means you shouldn't ask her how to do it.
- lhnz 9y ago> I don’t want your ‘exclusively for women’ support groups > I want inclusivity, not exclusivity. > You’re victimising me when you do that. You’re indicating that it’s most > likely I need special, extra support. Just because I’m female. And then later on: > By creating special awards for women I think you’re belittling the impact > and effort a group of humans are having in their field – just because of > their gender. She is certainly insulted by these so called 'outreach' programs. She is using the word 'victimising' and 'belittling' to describe them. It can't get any clearer than this. We can't just ignore people's lived experiences when they don't suit our positions. The ensuing comments thread on HN also had many similar stories.